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	<title>Comments on: Guardian Cryptic Nº 25,349 by  Orlando: A tall story</title>
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		<title>By: Giovanni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Giovanni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 15:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anyone know what has happened to Orlando? No puzzles at all in July - v.unusual!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone know what has happened to Orlando? No puzzles at all in July &#8211; v.unusual!</p>
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		<title>By: Sil van den Hoek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sil van den Hoek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another fine example of how a relatively easy (for some even &#039;too easy&#039;) crossword can be very enjoyable.
Orlando cares for the surface, and is one of those setters who can produce a clue that takes perhaps half a minute to solve, but at the same time leaves us (read: me) with sheer admiration for the elegancy of it.

18ac (NO ONE ELSE) was such a highlight today, as were eg 10ac and 11d (and a few more).

I am a bit surprised that so many people thought of FRENCH for 26ac, as this Polish/language clue/device is almost chestnutty.

Also surprised (like some others) about the ignorance re SIENNA MILLER. I got it immediately from the crossing letters but couldn&#039;t (fully) parse it eventually [so many thanks, PeterO].
Sienna Miller played next to Keira Knightley and Matthew Rhys in 2008&#039;s &quot;The Edge of Love&quot;, about Dylan Thomas (and in particular his relationship with Vera and Caitlin). Rather well-known.

Thanks, tupu, for mentioning the lightness of touch.
Indeed a reason why I prefer a crossword like this over yesterday&#039;s. 
But then, we&#039;re all different, aren&#039;t we? As are setters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another fine example of how a relatively easy (for some even &#8216;too easy&#8217;) crossword can be very enjoyable.<br />
Orlando cares for the surface, and is one of those setters who can produce a clue that takes perhaps half a minute to solve, but at the same time leaves us (read: me) with sheer admiration for the elegancy of it.</p>
<p>18ac (NO ONE ELSE) was such a highlight today, as were eg 10ac and 11d (and a few more).</p>
<p>I am a bit surprised that so many people thought of FRENCH for 26ac, as this Polish/language clue/device is almost chestnutty.</p>
<p>Also surprised (like some others) about the ignorance re SIENNA MILLER. I got it immediately from the crossing letters but couldn&#8217;t (fully) parse it eventually [so many thanks, PeterO].<br />
Sienna Miller played next to Keira Knightley and Matthew Rhys in 2008&#8242;s &#8220;The Edge of Love&#8221;, about Dylan Thomas (and in particular his relationship with Vera and Caitlin). Rather well-known.</p>
<p>Thanks, tupu, for mentioning the lightness of touch.<br />
Indeed a reason why I prefer a crossword like this over yesterday&#8217;s.<br />
But then, we&#8217;re all different, aren&#8217;t we? As are setters.</p>
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		<title>By: don</title>
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		<dc:creator>don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“May our setters long enjoy the right to roam anywhere they like in English-Language-Land”

        Yesterday ‘a bas’
        Today ‘ici’

Saesneg? Mae e’n mynd o ddrwg i waeth!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“May our setters long enjoy the right to roam anywhere they like in English-Language-Land”</p>
<p>        Yesterday ‘a bas’<br />
        Today ‘ici’</p>
<p>Saesneg? Mae e’n mynd o ddrwg i waeth!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Ellison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Ellison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I liked the first clue, which I got straight away. I anticipated there would have been some adverse comment, and had thought Orlando wrote it with 15 squarers in mind!

Wives a kind of reference to Chaucer, too, I thought.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked the first clue, which I got straight away. I anticipated there would have been some adverse comment, and had thought Orlando wrote it with 15 squarers in mind!</p>
<p>Wives a kind of reference to Chaucer, too, I thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Carrots</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carrots</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I made such a mess of this that I`m ashamed to publish the details. Suffice to say I got six clues wrong...and altered perfectly correct ones to accommodate my little &quot;cuckoos&quot;. 

Many thanks Orlando &amp; PeterO: lets hope that you`ve taught this Mr Toad a lesson he`ll never forget.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I made such a mess of this that I`m ashamed to publish the details. Suffice to say I got six clues wrong&#8230;and altered perfectly correct ones to accommodate my little &#8220;cuckoos&#8221;. </p>
<p>Many thanks Orlando &amp; PeterO: lets hope that you`ve taught this Mr Toad a lesson he`ll never forget.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MattD: The use of &#039;city&#039; here is a reference to expressions like: &#039;He works in the City&#039;.  In Britain this is conventional shorthand for &#039;he works in the financial district of the historic city of London&#039; - an area covered by the Eastern Central (EC) postcodes.

Yes. this is Anglocentric, if not even more narrowly Londinocentric - but that&#039;s where the puzzles are generated.  It&#039;s no worse than the many references (fortunately thinning out a bit now) to cricketing terminology which have tended to plague cryptics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MattD: The use of &#8216;city&#8217; here is a reference to expressions like: &#8216;He works in the City&#8217;.  In Britain this is conventional shorthand for &#8216;he works in the financial district of the historic city of London&#8217; &#8211; an area covered by the Eastern Central (EC) postcodes.</p>
<p>Yes. this is Anglocentric, if not even more narrowly Londinocentric &#8211; but that&#8217;s where the puzzles are generated.  It&#8217;s no worse than the many references (fortunately thinning out a bit now) to cricketing terminology which have tended to plague cryptics.</p>
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		<title>By: RCWhiting</title>
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		<dc:creator>RCWhiting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK TC I was being rather Euro-centric.
Nevertheless, there are plenty of Japanese gossip magazines which have featured the couple and OK has a Japanese version.
Their on-off relationship has been a world-wide news story - you might wonder why (me too) but it is a fact.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK TC I was being rather Euro-centric.<br />
Nevertheless, there are plenty of Japanese gossip magazines which have featured the couple and OK has a Japanese version.<br />
Their on-off relationship has been a world-wide news story &#8211; you might wonder why (me too) but it is a fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Tokyocolin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tokyocolin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And speaking of old buffers I am compelled to point out that Mao Tse Tung is the old, discredited Wade-Giles transcription of Mao&#039;s Chinese name. The currently accepted Pinyin version is Mao Zedong. The pronunciation of course has not changed. 

Having said that I had no issue with entering the &quot;old buffer&quot; version at 1dn.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And speaking of old buffers I am compelled to point out that Mao Tse Tung is the old, discredited Wade-Giles transcription of Mao&#8217;s Chinese name. The currently accepted Pinyin version is Mao Zedong. The pronunciation of course has not changed. </p>
<p>Having said that I had no issue with entering the &#8220;old buffer&#8221; version at 1dn.</p>
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		<title>By: Tokyocolin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tokyocolin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks PeterO, and to Orlando. I enjoyed most of this and some clues especially so. 

I too entered Doomiest and French initially. And Yarn was also my last in, doh!

I have to disagree with RCWhiting&#039;s assertion that she &quot;has been literally everywhere&quot;. Not big in Japan. But I agree that &quot;City&quot; has always been EC in crosswordland. I never knew why and now I do. Thankyou K&#039;s D.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks PeterO, and to Orlando. I enjoyed most of this and some clues especially so. </p>
<p>I too entered Doomiest and French initially. And Yarn was also my last in, doh!</p>
<p>I have to disagree with RCWhiting&#8217;s assertion that she &#8220;has been literally everywhere&#8221;. Not big in Japan. But I agree that &#8220;City&#8221; has always been EC in crosswordland. I never knew why and now I do. Thankyou K&#8217;s D.</p>
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		<title>By: Robi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BTW (with Gaufrid&#039;s indulgence) did NO ONE ELSE see SIENNA MILLER appearing at the RIALTO in the MOODIEST ANECDOTES penned by the KNIGHT and ICIER OLD WIVES? This meant a great deal to MAO TSE-TUNG who ABUSED his FIBREGLASS DREADNOUGHT at the thought of MAP-MAKING at SANDRINGHAM. BY NO MEANS did his lack of ORDINATION prevent his FINISHing his SAGA with a SURGE of DATA - a YARN about Steffi GRAF and her REVERSAL of fortunes. OLLIE, of course, regretted the SPILLAGE of his SHEPHERD&#039;S PIE, so ate TETRA instead.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW (with Gaufrid&#8217;s indulgence) did NO ONE ELSE see SIENNA MILLER appearing at the RIALTO in the MOODIEST ANECDOTES penned by the KNIGHT and ICIER OLD WIVES? This meant a great deal to MAO TSE-TUNG who ABUSED his FIBREGLASS DREADNOUGHT at the thought of MAP-MAKING at SANDRINGHAM. BY NO MEANS did his lack of ORDINATION prevent his FINISHing his SAGA with a SURGE of DATA &#8211; a YARN about Steffi GRAF and her REVERSAL of fortunes. OLLIE, of course, regretted the SPILLAGE of his SHEPHERD&#8217;S PIE, so ate TETRA instead.</p>
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