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		<title>By: PeeDee</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/06/17/guardian-25351-tramp/#comment-161672</link>
		<dc:creator>PeeDee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2011 09:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Eileen and thanks Tramp.

Its not often we get something that feels new in the fusty old world of crosswords, so thanks Tramp for shaking things up a bit!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Eileen and thanks Tramp.</p>
<p>Its not often we get something that feels new in the fusty old world of crosswords, so thanks Tramp for shaking things up a bit!</p>
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		<title>By: Taxi Phil</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/06/17/guardian-25351-tramp/#comment-161646</link>
		<dc:creator>Taxi Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tramp - hope you&#039;re going to pick this up again. I didn&#039;t get to the puzzle until 6am today while sitting in my cab waiting for the opening job of the shift. I have to say it gave me a tremendous amount of enjoyment. Took me a while to break &quot;Must&#039;ve ?&quot; but once I did I gave you a round of applause ! &quot;IPOD&quot; was the last one in and I didn&#039;t really see it until I got to this blog tonight. If anyone has trouble with 3D they shouldn&#039;t be reading an enlightened journal like the Guardian in my opinion. All in all, a fine piece of work. I look forward to the next, and many thanks for getting my day off to an ultra-bright start.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tramp &#8211; hope you&#8217;re going to pick this up again. I didn&#8217;t get to the puzzle until 6am today while sitting in my cab waiting for the opening job of the shift. I have to say it gave me a tremendous amount of enjoyment. Took me a while to break &#8220;Must&#8217;ve ?&#8221; but once I did I gave you a round of applause ! &#8220;IPOD&#8221; was the last one in and I didn&#8217;t really see it until I got to this blog tonight. If anyone has trouble with 3D they shouldn&#8217;t be reading an enlightened journal like the Guardian in my opinion. All in all, a fine piece of work. I look forward to the next, and many thanks for getting my day off to an ultra-bright start.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2011 11:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Think outside of the box&quot; spoils the crossword for me for being (in my view) bad English style. The &quot;of&quot; is unnecessary - &quot;think outside the box&quot; is much better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Think outside of the box&#8221; spoils the crossword for me for being (in my view) bad English style. The &#8220;of&#8221; is unnecessary &#8211; &#8220;think outside the box&#8221; is much better.</p>
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		<title>By: Sil van den Hoek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sil van den Hoek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2011 10:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Tramp. My reference to Cryptica shouldn&#039;t be seen as criticism. Unlike most solvers, I guess, I did remember some &#039;crossword&#039; clue involving Jonathan Ross. I only mentioned this in my post because it was for me part of the solving process of your fine puzzle.
You &#039;don&#039;t see the problem&#039;, I don&#039;t see one either! :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tramp. My reference to Cryptica shouldn&#8217;t be seen as criticism. Unlike most solvers, I guess, I did remember some &#8216;crossword&#8217; clue involving Jonathan Ross. I only mentioned this in my post because it was for me part of the solving process of your fine puzzle.<br />
You &#8216;don&#8217;t see the problem&#8217;, I don&#8217;t see one either! <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tramp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tramp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2011 08:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi to anyone who&#039;s still reading this

For the last few years, I&#039;ve been compiling the odd clue here and there and keeping them in an Excel file. Some of these clues I entered in the weekly clue-writing competitions on cryptica; I figured it was better for a few people to see them than for them to sit on my hard drive. I have used a few of these clues in my puzzles so far - I don&#039;t see the problem Sil. It&#039;s not like I&#039;ve used them in other crosswords or pinched them from someone else. I appreciate all the comments posted here and I think your blog was perfect, Eileen.

See you all soon]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi to anyone who&#8217;s still reading this</p>
<p>For the last few years, I&#8217;ve been compiling the odd clue here and there and keeping them in an Excel file. Some of these clues I entered in the weekly clue-writing competitions on cryptica; I figured it was better for a few people to see them than for them to sit on my hard drive. I have used a few of these clues in my puzzles so far &#8211; I don&#8217;t see the problem Sil. It&#8217;s not like I&#8217;ve used them in other crosswords or pinched them from someone else. I appreciate all the comments posted here and I think your blog was perfect, Eileen.</p>
<p>See you all soon</p>
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		<title>By: Andvari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andvari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2011 00:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I first scanned this one, I thought I wasn&#039;t going to like it much but when I started to do it, I really enjoyed it, one of my favourite crosswords I&#039;ve done for a while. I got 20,24ac after a few crossing letters and thought it was just some really laconic definition of what you must&#039;ve done to get the clue...never saw the rebus-style part of it at all! 

In general that&#039;s the problem, if there is one, with these type of clues, they don&#039;t have a secondary definition. I suppose neither do cryptic definitions, but there is always a sense that you should have two ways to get to the answer and then you&#039;re sure. I think where I fall in these type of clues depends whether I got them or not! I love the old &quot;Nothing squared is cubed (3)&quot; clue along those sort of lines.  

Surprised people seemed to struggle with Monopoly, it was the first one I got! Not sure about the crossing monos though, but did love the cunningly disguised definition for monotheism. 

Glad to see I&#039;m not the only one who thought 9ac was the weakest. I didn&#039;t really understand RAVEN either but it seems that&#039;s me not the setter. 

22d was a superb clue. Probably my favourite.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I first scanned this one, I thought I wasn&#8217;t going to like it much but when I started to do it, I really enjoyed it, one of my favourite crosswords I&#8217;ve done for a while. I got 20,24ac after a few crossing letters and thought it was just some really laconic definition of what you must&#8217;ve done to get the clue&#8230;never saw the rebus-style part of it at all! </p>
<p>In general that&#8217;s the problem, if there is one, with these type of clues, they don&#8217;t have a secondary definition. I suppose neither do cryptic definitions, but there is always a sense that you should have two ways to get to the answer and then you&#8217;re sure. I think where I fall in these type of clues depends whether I got them or not! I love the old &#8220;Nothing squared is cubed (3)&#8221; clue along those sort of lines.  </p>
<p>Surprised people seemed to struggle with Monopoly, it was the first one I got! Not sure about the crossing monos though, but did love the cunningly disguised definition for monotheism. </p>
<p>Glad to see I&#8217;m not the only one who thought 9ac was the weakest. I didn&#8217;t really understand RAVEN either but it seems that&#8217;s me not the setter. </p>
<p>22d was a superb clue. Probably my favourite.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 22:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Furthermore, in Saxon times Nottingham was known as &quot;Snottingham&quot;. However the Old French speakers who came with the Norman Conquest struggled with an &quot;S&quot; followed by another consonant, so the name became as we know it now. It&#039;s understandable that the good burghers of Scunthorpe fought them so fiercely.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Furthermore, in Saxon times Nottingham was known as &#8220;Snottingham&#8221;. However the Old French speakers who came with the Norman Conquest struggled with an &#8220;S&#8221; followed by another consonant, so the name became as we know it now. It&#8217;s understandable that the good burghers of Scunthorpe fought them so fiercely.</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 22:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Carrots

&quot;I had little choice over the “honest woman”: she was the only person I knew who could de-coke the cylinder head of my ancient BSA 125cc Bantam, essential on any trip over 50 miles.&quot;

Too much information, for me, I think! ;-)

and thanks, RCWhiting, I&#039;ll bear that in mind.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Carrots</p>
<p>&#8220;I had little choice over the “honest woman”: she was the only person I knew who could de-coke the cylinder head of my ancient BSA 125cc Bantam, essential on any trip over 50 miles.&#8221;</p>
<p>Too much information, for me, I think! <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>and thanks, RCWhiting, I&#8217;ll bear that in mind.</p>
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		<title>By: RCWhiting</title>
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		<dc:creator>RCWhiting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 22:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know this is just a single opinion, but my order of interest is:
1. Any clues I couldn&#039;t parse;
2. Posters views;
3. Preamble (you compose it last....I read it last).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is just a single opinion, but my order of interest is:<br />
1. Any clues I couldn&#8217;t parse;<br />
2. Posters views;<br />
3. Preamble (you compose it last&#8230;.I read it last).</p>
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		<title>By: Martin P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 22:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re No.8, Stella, I gather that pedant historians now refer to King Canute as &quot;Cnut&quot; (well, might as well; he was a bit of one by all accounts...)

:)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re No.8, Stella, I gather that pedant historians now refer to King Canute as &#8220;Cnut&#8221; (well, might as well; he was a bit of one by all accounts&#8230;)</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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