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		<title>By: Phi</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/06/17/independent-7697-phi/#comment-161645</link>
		<dc:creator>Phi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nothing hidden in this one, at least not consciously.  I think it was one where, to alleviate the dread of starting a blank grid, and to avoid coming up with a &#039;theme&#039; I seeded it with an entry in a list of &#039;interesting words to clue&#039; that I maintain.  Sadly, they often turn out to be interesting only as in the &#039;may you live in interesting times&#039; definition, but in this case it was PLACKET, which I knew of as the strip down the front of a shirt where the buttons sit, which is nearer the ODE definition than Chambers&#039;.  I was concerned about LOCAL AUTHORITY where the cryptic elements remain etymologically close to the defined elements (LOCAL/LOCALITY in particular) but I think it just about works.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing hidden in this one, at least not consciously.  I think it was one where, to alleviate the dread of starting a blank grid, and to avoid coming up with a &#8216;theme&#8217; I seeded it with an entry in a list of &#8216;interesting words to clue&#8217; that I maintain.  Sadly, they often turn out to be interesting only as in the &#8216;may you live in interesting times&#8217; definition, but in this case it was PLACKET, which I knew of as the strip down the front of a shirt where the buttons sit, which is nearer the ODE definition than Chambers&#8217;.  I was concerned about LOCAL AUTHORITY where the cryptic elements remain etymologically close to the defined elements (LOCAL/LOCALITY in particular) but I think it just about works.</p>
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		<title>By: flashling</title>
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		<dc:creator>flashling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2011 00:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks R and Phi, first run through did very badly, second it went very quickly. Can&#039;t see a theme but no doubt Phi knows better]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks R and Phi, first run through did very badly, second it went very quickly. Can&#8217;t see a theme but no doubt Phi knows better</p>
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		<title>By: ele</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/06/17/independent-7697-phi/#comment-161536</link>
		<dc:creator>ele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re placket - it&#039;s still in use in dressmaking, for the side slit you put a zip in a skirt. More common perhaps in the US, which is where all the dressmaking patterns came from when I used to make clothes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re placket &#8211; it&#8217;s still in use in dressmaking, for the side slit you put a zip in a skirt. More common perhaps in the US, which is where all the dressmaking patterns came from when I used to make clothes.</p>
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		<title>By: Mustyx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mustyx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Straightforward, but with all the usual elegance from Phi. LOI was Opposite Prompt, of which I hadn&#039;t previously heard and which doesn&#039;t appear in Chambers but, strangely, is in the electronic New Oxford American (marked as a &#039;British&#039; word) that came with my Mac computer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Straightforward, but with all the usual elegance from Phi. LOI was Opposite Prompt, of which I hadn&#8217;t previously heard and which doesn&#8217;t appear in Chambers but, strangely, is in the electronic New Oxford American (marked as a &#8216;British&#8217; word) that came with my Mac computer.</p>
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		<title>By: Conrad Cork</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conrad Cork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fortunately The Bard came to my aid over placket.  In King Lear, Edgar, disguised as a madman says (amongst other things)

&quot; keep thy foot
	out of brothels, thy hand out of plackets, thy pen
	from lenders&#039; books, and defy the foul fiend.&quot;

Still good advice, even today IMHO.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fortunately The Bard came to my aid over placket.  In King Lear, Edgar, disguised as a madman says (amongst other things)</p>
<p>&#8221; keep thy foot<br />
	out of brothels, thy hand out of plackets, thy pen<br />
	from lenders&#8217; books, and defy the foul fiend.&#8221;</p>
<p>Still good advice, even today IMHO.</p>
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		<title>By: lenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>lenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This was a quick solve for me with only Opposite Prompt and Placket being unfamiliar. I, too, liked the clue for Local Authority. The clues for Impasto and Unfair were hardy annuals but the Impasto joke, in particular, bears repetition.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a quick solve for me with only Opposite Prompt and Placket being unfamiliar. I, too, liked the clue for Local Authority. The clues for Impasto and Unfair were hardy annuals but the Impasto joke, in particular, bears repetition.</p>
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		<title>By: nmsindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>nmsindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the light of those comments I might have been lucky today as I solved this quite fast.   I think, K&#039;s D, you might see IMPASTO again, a word the meaning of which I learnt from puzzles.   Thanks, RatkojaRiku, for the blog and Phi for the puzzle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the light of those comments I might have been lucky today as I solved this quite fast.   I think, K&#8217;s D, you might see IMPASTO again, a word the meaning of which I learnt from puzzles.   Thanks, RatkojaRiku, for the blog and Phi for the puzzle.</p>
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		<title>By: ele</title>
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		<dc:creator>ele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 11:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I found this more difficult than usual too. OPPOSITE PROMPT was the last one in as I got distracted early on by &#039;stalls&#039; for &#039;delay&#039; - probably a clever misdirection by Phi. 9dn was my favourite clue as well. Thanks to Ali for the blog and Phi for the puzzle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this more difficult than usual too. OPPOSITE PROMPT was the last one in as I got distracted early on by &#8216;stalls&#8217; for &#8216;delay&#8217; &#8211; probably a clever misdirection by Phi. 9dn was my favourite clue as well. Thanks to Ali for the blog and Phi for the puzzle.</p>
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		<title>By: RatkojaRiku</title>
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		<dc:creator>RatkojaRiku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 11:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks very much, Kathryn&#039;s Dad, for 9 - I have adapted the blog accordingly. If I had managed to solve this clue, it would doubtless have been a favourite of mine too!

This was a good example of how one just can&#039;t see the wood for the trees once one has got an idea into one&#039;s head. I just couldn&#039;t get away from the idea of authority and wordsmith both being experts of sorts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks very much, Kathryn&#8217;s Dad, for 9 &#8211; I have adapted the blog accordingly. If I had managed to solve this clue, it would doubtless have been a favourite of mine too!</p>
<p>This was a good example of how one just can&#8217;t see the wood for the trees once one has got an idea into one&#8217;s head. I just couldn&#8217;t get away from the idea of authority and wordsmith both being experts of sorts.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn's Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn's Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 08:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PS I took &#039;parties&#039; to be the anagrind in 27ac.  In the sense that when you go to a party, you &#039;shake it all about&#039;.  Or something like that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS I took &#8216;parties&#8217; to be the anagrind in 27ac.  In the sense that when you go to a party, you &#8216;shake it all about&#8217;.  Or something like that.</p>
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