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		<title>By: Morph</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/07/18/independent-7723-by-morph/#comment-165525</link>
		<dc:creator>Morph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 20:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Neal, and all for your comments. I wrote the puzzle in May, so it was quite fortuitous (prescient?) that 1ac becamse so timely. As for 1dn, I&#039;d better not comment!
Re the pronunciation of Qatari, I think the Arabic is between cattery and kerTARy, and Chambers lists both, so I felt I was on fairly safe ground running with the homophone. I think cattery was what I heard most frequently when I was in Doha last month.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Neal, and all for your comments. I wrote the puzzle in May, so it was quite fortuitous (prescient?) that 1ac becamse so timely. As for 1dn, I&#8217;d better not comment!<br />
Re the pronunciation of Qatari, I think the Arabic is between cattery and kerTARy, and Chambers lists both, so I felt I was on fairly safe ground running with the homophone. I think cattery was what I heard most frequently when I was in Doha last month.</p>
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		<title>By: NealH</title>
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		<dc:creator>NealH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 20:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eileen,

18 works as a double definition because of the theatrical meaning of &quot;wrap&quot; - to complete the filming of something - although your explanation is also valid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eileen,</p>
<p>18 works as a double definition because of the theatrical meaning of &#8220;wrap&#8221; &#8211; to complete the filming of something &#8211; although your explanation is also valid.</p>
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		<title>By: Wanderer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wanderer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Morph and NealH. Difficult but fun.

Was there not a Rupert Murdoch mini-theme lurking in the NW corner? Not just in the overtly topical 1a, as noted, about police/mobile/tapped, but also in 1d: &quot;Jumped-up porn baron in decline?&quot; When RM bought The Times, by which time he already owned The Sun and NoTW, I remember lots of reaction along the lines of &quot;Who is this jumped-up porn baron buying The Establishment Newspaper?&quot; The &quot;in decline&quot; bit then becomes nicely topical as well. And the solution at 2d, PAY TV, also fits in.

No doubt I am just reading too much into it, but I kept looking for more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Morph and NealH. Difficult but fun.</p>
<p>Was there not a Rupert Murdoch mini-theme lurking in the NW corner? Not just in the overtly topical 1a, as noted, about police/mobile/tapped, but also in 1d: &#8220;Jumped-up porn baron in decline?&#8221; When RM bought The Times, by which time he already owned The Sun and NoTW, I remember lots of reaction along the lines of &#8220;Who is this jumped-up porn baron buying The Establishment Newspaper?&#8221; The &#8220;in decline&#8221; bit then becomes nicely topical as well. And the solution at 2d, PAY TV, also fits in.</p>
<p>No doubt I am just reading too much into it, but I kept looking for more.</p>
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		<title>By: Cumbrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cumbrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi walruss @6. It&#039;s only one undergarment, so it&#039;s IN VEST MEN TRUST around T.

I found this tough and couldn&#039;t complete it in my allotted time, and I&#039;m generally too impatient to come back so I used the reveal button on a few. I did get SICK AS A PARROT which gave me a good groan for its use of &quot;poll-wise&quot;, and was my favourite clue. I hadn&#039;t come across GIRN, having only ever seen GURN (thanks lenny @4 for the info); AFAIK the fine art of Gurning through a horse collar still flourishes in the West Country.

Thanks Morph and NealH]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi walruss @6. It&#8217;s only one undergarment, so it&#8217;s IN VEST MEN TRUST around T.</p>
<p>I found this tough and couldn&#8217;t complete it in my allotted time, and I&#8217;m generally too impatient to come back so I used the reveal button on a few. I did get SICK AS A PARROT which gave me a good groan for its use of &#8220;poll-wise&#8221;, and was my favourite clue. I hadn&#8217;t come across GIRN, having only ever seen GURN (thanks lenny @4 for the info); AFAIK the fine art of Gurning through a horse collar still flourishes in the West Country.</p>
<p>Thanks Morph and NealH</p>
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		<title>By: walruss</title>
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		<dc:creator>walruss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It can&#039;t be &#039;in vests men trust&#039; around T: I shall go to the puzzle and check the clue. Cheers Morph for a nice puzzle, and to Neal H for his blog.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It can&#8217;t be &#8216;in vests men trust&#8217; around T: I shall go to the puzzle and check the clue. Cheers Morph for a nice puzzle, and to Neal H for his blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas99</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apparently Qataris would pronounce &quot;Qatar&quot; with a stress on the first syllable, with the word sounding more like &quot;cutter&quot; or &quot;gutter&quot; than &quot;catarrh&quot;. So perhaps &quot;cattery&quot; for &quot;Qatari&quot; isn&#039;t so wrong after all. As Kathryn&#039;s Dad says, Morph should know (although I don&#039;t think you should necessarily &lt;i&gt;always&lt;/i&gt; try to imitate the residents - we still don&#039;t say Paree, after all...).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently Qataris would pronounce &#8220;Qatar&#8221; with a stress on the first syllable, with the word sounding more like &#8220;cutter&#8221; or &#8220;gutter&#8221; than &#8220;catarrh&#8221;. So perhaps &#8220;cattery&#8221; for &#8220;Qatari&#8221; isn&#8217;t so wrong after all. As Kathryn&#8217;s Dad says, Morph should know (although I don&#8217;t think you should necessarily <i>always</i> try to imitate the residents &#8211; we still don&#8217;t say Paree, after all&#8230;).</p>
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		<title>By: lenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>lenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 12:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Neal. This was a cracking puzzle from Morph. I found the SE particularly difficult with the substitutions and subtractions of Hassle and Hegemony and the outrageous Cattery.I read this as a DD with &quot;home for Persian&quot; being the first definition.

 I only knew the word Gurn so Girn went in on the wordplay. I thought Girn must be a variant but, in fact, it is the other way round.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Neal. This was a cracking puzzle from Morph. I found the SE particularly difficult with the substitutions and subtractions of Hassle and Hegemony and the outrageous Cattery.I read this as a DD with &#8220;home for Persian&#8221; being the first definition.</p>
<p> I only knew the word Gurn so Girn went in on the wordplay. I thought Girn must be a variant but, in fact, it is the other way round.</p>
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		<title>By: nmsindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>nmsindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the blog, NealH, and Morph for the puzzle which I thought was quite hard.   Favourite clues, RED CARDS and NAY, where I think there is a homophone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the blog, NealH, and Morph for the puzzle which I thought was quite hard.   Favourite clues, RED CARDS and NAY, where I think there is a homophone.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn's Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn's Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 08:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many thanks, Neal.

Great start to the week from Morph.  Just right for me, anyway - I found it tough in places, but ultimately gettable.  Some very inventive wordplay: I specially liked PAY TV (&#039;woofer&#039; for dog made me laugh), and SICK AS A PARROT (ditto &#039;poll&#039;).

I too initially questioned &#039;recalcitrant&#039;, but my Thesaurus gives &#039;contrary&#039;, so fair enough.

I have always thought QATARI was pronounced CAT-ARE-EE, with the stress on the second syllable, but since if I understand it well, Morph&#039;s proper job involves dealing with that part of the world, I&#039;m sure he&#039;s right. But too much information can be a dangerous thing: knowing the above, I spent far too long trying to shoehorn Mohammed KARSAI into 5ac.

Fine puzzle, and not a single reference to the royal wedding in sight ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks, Neal.</p>
<p>Great start to the week from Morph.  Just right for me, anyway &#8211; I found it tough in places, but ultimately gettable.  Some very inventive wordplay: I specially liked PAY TV (&#8216;woofer&#8217; for dog made me laugh), and SICK AS A PARROT (ditto &#8216;poll&#8217;).</p>
<p>I too initially questioned &#8216;recalcitrant&#8217;, but my Thesaurus gives &#8216;contrary&#8217;, so fair enough.</p>
<p>I have always thought QATARI was pronounced CAT-ARE-EE, with the stress on the second syllable, but since if I understand it well, Morph&#8217;s proper job involves dealing with that part of the world, I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;s right. But too much information can be a dangerous thing: knowing the above, I spent far too long trying to shoehorn Mohammed KARSAI into 5ac.</p>
<p>Fine puzzle, and not a single reference to the royal wedding in sight &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 07:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the blog, Neal, and Morph for an enjoyable and witty puzzle.

4dn is [b]EST I&#039;M ABLE and in 18dn I think WRAPPED is a homophone [for broadcast] of &#039;rapt&#039; [sent].]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the blog, Neal, and Morph for an enjoyable and witty puzzle.</p>
<p>4dn is [b]EST I&#8217;M ABLE and in 18dn I think WRAPPED is a homophone [for broadcast] of &#8216;rapt&#8217; [sent].</p>
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