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		<title>By: flashling</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/07/22/financial-times-13752-loroso/#comment-165934</link>
		<dc:creator>flashling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 06:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Failed on three damn it, spent ages on henpecked so obviously right yet wrong...
Glad I was blogging Phi not you. Cheers for the fun Loroso]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Failed on three damn it, spent ages on henpecked so obviously right yet wrong&#8230;<br />
Glad I was blogging Phi not you. Cheers for the fun Loroso</p>
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		<title>By: Alberich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alberich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 22:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the explanation, Anax. I&#039;m glad it wasn&#039;t just me being stupid. The original version is excellent, but if not quite suitable for FT it would go down well at Private Eye. Worth keeping in storage anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the explanation, Anax. I&#8217;m glad it wasn&#8217;t just me being stupid. The original version is excellent, but if not quite suitable for FT it would go down well at Private Eye. Worth keeping in storage anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: anax</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/07/22/financial-times-13752-loroso/#comment-165918</link>
		<dc:creator>anax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 20:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Sil

Thank you!!! Another admirer eh? Tell you what, there&#039;s going to be one hell of a party when I reach double figures :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sil</p>
<p>Thank you!!! Another admirer eh? Tell you what, there&#8217;s going to be one hell of a party when I reach double figures <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sil van den Hoek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sil van den Hoek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 19:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today we left Bonxie on the shelf, and instead tackled this Loroso.
I gave my PinC the choice, and she was clear enough.
Dear Loroso, you have won a new admirer today ! :)

This was a cracking solve with some clues cleverly interwoven.
Of course, we didn&#039;t understand HENPECKED (25ac) - and yes, we made one mistake: CAXTON (14ac). We saw it as &quot;Roman (R?) (that a) statesman (CATO) has restricted by (&#039;next to&#039;) new (N)&quot;, which led us to CARTON. That&#039;s not a printer, I know (would be Canon :)), but you&#039;ll never know with Loroso when there is a paper connection.

Clues we liked a lot were the concise, very precisely formulated and sometimes nicely misdirecting 1ac (DOWNPLAY), 20ac (MOD CON), 2d (WITHSTAND) and 4d (ARRAIGN) [in which has/heard had to be unlinked].

Thank you shuchi for today&#039;s effort.
I tend to agree that it probably was &#039;a shade easier than usual&#039;, but that didn&#039;t affect the quality at all.
Sometimes I ask myself why I find Loroso (even) better than Anax. Maybe because it&#039;s the FT, he eases a bit down.
The fact that Lorosos are in general slightly more accessible makes them for me all the more appealing.

And appealing it was!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today we left Bonxie on the shelf, and instead tackled this Loroso.<br />
I gave my PinC the choice, and she was clear enough.<br />
Dear Loroso, you have won a new admirer today ! <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>This was a cracking solve with some clues cleverly interwoven.<br />
Of course, we didn&#8217;t understand HENPECKED (25ac) &#8211; and yes, we made one mistake: CAXTON (14ac). We saw it as &#8220;Roman (R?) (that a) statesman (CATO) has restricted by (&#8216;next to&#8217;) new (N)&#8221;, which led us to CARTON. That&#8217;s not a printer, I know (would be Canon <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ), but you&#8217;ll never know with Loroso when there is a paper connection.</p>
<p>Clues we liked a lot were the concise, very precisely formulated and sometimes nicely misdirecting 1ac (DOWNPLAY), 20ac (MOD CON), 2d (WITHSTAND) and 4d (ARRAIGN) [in which has/heard had to be unlinked].</p>
<p>Thank you shuchi for today&#8217;s effort.<br />
I tend to agree that it probably was &#8216;a shade easier than usual&#8217;, but that didn&#8217;t affect the quality at all.<br />
Sometimes I ask myself why I find Loroso (even) better than Anax. Maybe because it&#8217;s the FT, he eases a bit down.<br />
The fact that Lorosos are in general slightly more accessible makes them for me all the more appealing.</p>
<p>And appealing it was!</p>
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		<title>By: Richard C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 18:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[anax. Thanks for sharing the story! How amusing. I think it is quite funny that you got &quot;Property is theft&quot; into the FT of all places, by the way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anax. Thanks for sharing the story! How amusing. I think it is quite funny that you got &#8220;Property is theft&#8221; into the FT of all places, by the way.</p>
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		<title>By: anax</title>
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		<dc:creator>anax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 18:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good evening all, thanks to you and to the lovely Shuchi for a super blog.

Ah, 25a; ultimately my fault although I didn&#039;t know. The error (for that is what it is) derives from the fact that my original clue was rather naughty: Bullied man kissed tip of private parts (9) - there we have &#039;tip of private&#039; and &#039;parts&#039; for the inserticator. It&#039;s been edited to just &#039;proboscis&#039; and as a result the insertion has hit the studio floor - sadly I didn&#039;t know about the change to the clue.

That&#039;ll learn me. Mouth/soap interface beckons.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good evening all, thanks to you and to the lovely Shuchi for a super blog.</p>
<p>Ah, 25a; ultimately my fault although I didn&#8217;t know. The error (for that is what it is) derives from the fact that my original clue was rather naughty: Bullied man kissed tip of private parts (9) &#8211; there we have &#8216;tip of private&#8217; and &#8216;parts&#8217; for the inserticator. It&#8217;s been edited to just &#8216;proboscis&#8217; and as a result the insertion has hit the studio floor &#8211; sadly I didn&#8217;t know about the change to the clue.</p>
<p>That&#8217;ll learn me. Mouth/soap interface beckons.</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 17:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[crptic sue&#039;s comment echoed my thoughts exactly! :-(

But it&#039;s reassuring to know that even Alberich is perplexed re 25ac. I only got as far as kissed&#039; = &#039;pecked&#039; with n[ose] as &#039;tip of proboscis&#039; but that wouldn&#039;t be fair and it doesn&#039;r work, anyway. At least Loroso is one of those setters who do drop by to enlighten ue - please!

Many thanks, shuchi, for an excellent blog, and Loroso for yet another strenuous workout.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>crptic sue&#8217;s comment echoed my thoughts exactly! <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But it&#8217;s reassuring to know that even Alberich is perplexed re 25ac. I only got as far as kissed&#8217; = &#8216;pecked&#8217; with n[ose] as &#8216;tip of proboscis&#8217; but that wouldn&#8217;t be fair and it doesn&#8217;r work, anyway. At least Loroso is one of those setters who do drop by to enlighten ue &#8211; please!</p>
<p>Many thanks, shuchi, for an excellent blog, and Loroso for yet another strenuous workout.</p>
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		<title>By: Alberich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alberich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 17:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent puzzle as always from Loroso. I can&#039;t see either how the P gets inside in 25. Loroso is always fair so either I&#039;m missing something obvious or a word got omitted at the printing stage. I particularly liked the clues for WITHSTAND and MUSHROOM.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent puzzle as always from Loroso. I can&#8217;t see either how the P gets inside in 25. Loroso is always fair so either I&#8217;m missing something obvious or a word got omitted at the printing stage. I particularly liked the clues for WITHSTAND and MUSHROOM.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas99</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 13:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Richard C (7)-
Up = at university is archaic?? Not round my way it isn&#039;t. And I&#039;m a relatively young solver/commenter, I think. I&#039;m pretty sure students still use it, along with &quot;sent down&quot; and other related phrases.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard C (7)-<br />
Up = at university is archaic?? Not round my way it isn&#8217;t. And I&#8217;m a relatively young solver/commenter, I think. I&#8217;m pretty sure students still use it, along with &#8220;sent down&#8221; and other related phrases.</p>
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		<title>By: shuchi</title>
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		<dc:creator>shuchi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 12:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Emma:

1) I rechecked Oz - Chambers lists it as &#039;also adj.&#039;, so perhaps Oz = &#039;from Australia&#039;. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s commonly used in that sense though. Ozzie is the term I&#039;ve heard more. I had difficulty with this clue too.

2) I&#039;ve seen AV = bible before, but AVISO was new to me.

3) UP = at university. I read it the way Jezza explains lucidly at comment#4. 

@Anon: Welcome here, and you&#039;re right about 3d. Will correct the annotation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Emma:</p>
<p>1) I rechecked Oz &#8211; Chambers lists it as &#8216;also adj.&#8217;, so perhaps Oz = &#8216;from Australia&#8217;. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s commonly used in that sense though. Ozzie is the term I&#8217;ve heard more. I had difficulty with this clue too.</p>
<p>2) I&#8217;ve seen AV = bible before, but AVISO was new to me.</p>
<p>3) UP = at university. I read it the way Jezza explains lucidly at comment#4. </p>
<p>@Anon: Welcome here, and you&#8217;re right about 3d. Will correct the annotation.</p>
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