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	<title>Comments on: Independent 7722 by Tyrus (Saturday prize puzzle 16th July 2011)</title>
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		<title>By: twencelas</title>
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		<dc:creator>twencelas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 17:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Graham - The clue for 18dn was &quot;5 ultimately stops secret breaking hearts&quot;. 5 is &#039;super injunction&#039; and ultimately this is &quot;N&quot; inserted into an anagram of secret giving CENTRES. Do you manage to get hold of the paper copy of the Independent in Adelaide, it&#039;s been a few years since I&#039;ve been there? It is a small world - My mother in law, who passed away 8 years ago (Audrey R) used to live beside you. You might remember Fiona rather than I.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graham &#8211; The clue for 18dn was &#8220;5 ultimately stops secret breaking hearts&#8221;. 5 is &#8216;super injunction&#8217; and ultimately this is &#8220;N&#8221; inserted into an anagram of secret giving CENTRES. Do you manage to get hold of the paper copy of the Independent in Adelaide, it&#8217;s been a few years since I&#8217;ve been there? It is a small world &#8211; My mother in law, who passed away 8 years ago (Audrey R) used to live beside you. You might remember Fiona rather than I.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Pellen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Pellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 14:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[18D is n in, not +, secret.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>18D is n in, not +, secret.</p>
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		<title>By: Tramp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tramp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 10:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A wonderful puzzle - I thoroughly enjoyed it. Superb clues and a topical theme.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A wonderful puzzle &#8211; I thoroughly enjoyed it. Superb clues and a topical theme.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyrus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 21:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks to twencelas for the blog and for the other comments. 

Well done, Wanderer. You&#039;re getting there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to twencelas for the blog and for the other comments. </p>
<p>Well done, Wanderer. You&#8217;re getting there.</p>
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		<title>By: nmsindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>nmsindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 14:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think, Wanderer at #3, that there would be no definition then or one that is just too indirect and therefore unfair.   Yes, this was a fun puzzle, thanks, Tyrus and twencelas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think, Wanderer at #3, that there would be no definition then or one that is just too indirect and therefore unfair.   Yes, this was a fun puzzle, thanks, Tyrus and twencelas.</p>
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		<title>By: Wanderer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wanderer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 13:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks twencelas and Tyrus, I thoroughly enjoyed this. The surface in the long clue was one of the cleverest I&#039;ve seen, and some of the related ones, especially gagging for it, disclosure and phone hacking, were wonderful. I failed on IMPI, so I have yet to complete my first Tyrus -- I look forward to the next challenge!

One thing I am not quite clear about: are the last two words (&quot;with this&quot;) really necessary in the long clue? Surely as it stands, the definition is strictly &quot;this&quot;. If the clue read &quot; &#039;Juicy, name not unknown - print!&#039; No use, sadly &quot; we would still get the same solution, and the definition really would be the whole clue. This is a question asked out of relative inexperience.

Thank you for a great challenge.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks twencelas and Tyrus, I thoroughly enjoyed this. The surface in the long clue was one of the cleverest I&#8217;ve seen, and some of the related ones, especially gagging for it, disclosure and phone hacking, were wonderful. I failed on IMPI, so I have yet to complete my first Tyrus &#8212; I look forward to the next challenge!</p>
<p>One thing I am not quite clear about: are the last two words (&#8220;with this&#8221;) really necessary in the long clue? Surely as it stands, the definition is strictly &#8220;this&#8221;. If the clue read &#8221; &#8216;Juicy, name not unknown &#8211; print!&#8217; No use, sadly &#8221; we would still get the same solution, and the definition really would be the whole clue. This is a question asked out of relative inexperience.</p>
<p>Thank you for a great challenge.</p>
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		<title>By: ele</title>
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		<dc:creator>ele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 11:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t usually get to do this x-word as the Inquisitor usually takes up all my time! But it was easier that week. Very entertaining and thanks for the blog twenceslas. I think re 9/7 that Dante and Beatrice never actually met so that&#039;s why they could never &#039;kiss and tell&#039;. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t usually get to do this x-word as the Inquisitor usually takes up all my time! But it was easier that week. Very entertaining and thanks for the blog twenceslas. I think re 9/7 that Dante and Beatrice never actually met so that&#8217;s why they could never &#8216;kiss and tell&#8217;. <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Allan_C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan_C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 07:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, twencelas, for the blog - particularly the explanation of 8d.  This was one of those crosswords where some of the answers come before full understanding of their clues - 1a, 20a, 3d and 8d in this case for me - and I was still in the dark a bit with 8d.

21d was a new word to me - not in Chambers or Collins but I found it on-line.

Does 5d really exist?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, twencelas, for the blog &#8211; particularly the explanation of 8d.  This was one of those crosswords where some of the answers come before full understanding of their clues &#8211; 1a, 20a, 3d and 8d in this case for me &#8211; and I was still in the dark a bit with 8d.</p>
<p>21d was a new word to me &#8211; not in Chambers or Collins but I found it on-line.</p>
<p>Does 5d really exist?</p>
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