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		<title>By: RCWhiting</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/08/05/guardian-25393-tramp/#comment-166877</link>
		<dc:creator>RCWhiting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 21:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks all
I don&#039;t know who Tramp is but bring him/her back soon.
This was a great challenge. I started it on the beach, continued in the beer garden and was still being entertained back in the caravan - excellent value.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks all<br />
I don&#8217;t know who Tramp is but bring him/her back soon.<br />
This was a great challenge. I started it on the beach, continued in the beer garden and was still being entertained back in the caravan &#8211; excellent value.</p>
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		<title>By: ernie</title>
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		<dc:creator>ernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 07:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As Kathryn&#039;s Dad says (# 11): Easy, but fun. That’ll do me for a Friday morning (and the rest, and Saturday). Thanks to Tramp and Andrew.

RIBOFLAVIN (Vitamin B2) was particularly good, and there IS some Vitamin B6 in Flora.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Kathryn&#8217;s Dad says (# 11): Easy, but fun. That’ll do me for a Friday morning (and the rest, and Saturday). Thanks to Tramp and Andrew.</p>
<p>RIBOFLAVIN (Vitamin B2) was particularly good, and there IS some Vitamin B6 in Flora.</p>
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		<title>By: Euan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Euan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 19:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After years of dabbling with cryptics I have been making a diligent effort over the past few months to do the Times most days and check the various blogs to really try to learn each day.

I decided today it was time to branch out and this was my first Guardian Cryptic. It&#039;s been a pleasure - a lively and enjoyable puzzle. I just managed to finish and I particularly liked RIBOFLAVIN, EPITAPH and ESTATE CAR. 

This was an excellent blogpost - thanks Andrew. And it was particularly welcome to see the contribution from the setter - thanks for the puzzle. I thought maybe 20d was an idiosyncrasy of the Guardian and so your admission is very helpful!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After years of dabbling with cryptics I have been making a diligent effort over the past few months to do the Times most days and check the various blogs to really try to learn each day.</p>
<p>I decided today it was time to branch out and this was my first Guardian Cryptic. It&#8217;s been a pleasure &#8211; a lively and enjoyable puzzle. I just managed to finish and I particularly liked RIBOFLAVIN, EPITAPH and ESTATE CAR. </p>
<p>This was an excellent blogpost &#8211; thanks Andrew. And it was particularly welcome to see the contribution from the setter &#8211; thanks for the puzzle. I thought maybe 20d was an idiosyncrasy of the Guardian and so your admission is very helpful!</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 16:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Tramp 

It&#039;s good to get confirmation on today&#039;s 20d. I have been bashing my head against a brick wall.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tramp </p>
<p>It&#8217;s good to get confirmation on today&#8217;s 20d. I have been bashing my head against a brick wall.</p>
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		<title>By: Tramp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tramp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 14:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks everyone.

I suspect not many folk are still checking this but it&#039;s an amazing coincidence that my puzzle yestrerday contained a mistake at 20d and the Paul puzzle the day afer seems to contain a mistake too (also at 20d)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks everyone.</p>
<p>I suspect not many folk are still checking this but it&#8217;s an amazing coincidence that my puzzle yestrerday contained a mistake at 20d and the Paul puzzle the day afer seems to contain a mistake too (also at 20d)</p>
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		<title>By: Sylvia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sylvia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 12:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My first in was the long anagram, purely from the letter count:-) and the last was Blessed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first in was the long anagram, purely from the letter count:-) and the last was Blessed.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom willis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 20:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A special day for me: this is the first cryptic outside of everyman that i&#039;ve managed to complete 100% on my own. Kept me entertained on way to/from work, and was delighted when i cracked &#039;abraham&#039;s bosom&#039; as the last clue in. Thanks Tramp!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A special day for me: this is the first cryptic outside of everyman that i&#8217;ve managed to complete 100% on my own. Kept me entertained on way to/from work, and was delighted when i cracked &#8216;abraham&#8217;s bosom&#8217; as the last clue in. Thanks Tramp!</p>
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		<title>By: Speckled Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Speckled Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 17:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really enjoyed this one. My heart sank when I saw the massive phrase beginning 26a with a reference to another clue, itself containing a reference, but for once I could actually get the film being referenced! I was sure that the &#039;divine&#039; in 5a was going to be the verb rather than the adjective though - surfaces are usually more misleading than this. 

I only know Brian Blessed from the sub-standard first series of Blackadder.

3, 8 and 18 I got without understanding why, so thanks for the explanations. Think it possibly a little harsh to use an example of an epitaph - let alone one that doesn&#039;t actually exist in that form!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really enjoyed this one. My heart sank when I saw the massive phrase beginning 26a with a reference to another clue, itself containing a reference, but for once I could actually get the film being referenced! I was sure that the &#8216;divine&#8217; in 5a was going to be the verb rather than the adjective though &#8211; surfaces are usually more misleading than this. </p>
<p>I only know Brian Blessed from the sub-standard first series of Blackadder.</p>
<p>3, 8 and 18 I got without understanding why, so thanks for the explanations. Think it possibly a little harsh to use an example of an epitaph &#8211; let alone one that doesn&#8217;t actually exist in that form!</p>
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		<title>By: scchua</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 17:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Andrew and Tramp.

This was quite manageable after getting LIFE OF BRIAN which then led to the long anagram, though I didn&#039;t try, as with most long anagrams, to deconstruct the answer to get the fodder.  Favourites were 14A ESTATE CAR, 11A RIBOFLAVIN and 9D ABRAHAM&#039;S BOSOM.

No-one&#039;s mentioned it, but I recall Brian Blessed hollering as Blackadder&#039;s father.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Andrew and Tramp.</p>
<p>This was quite manageable after getting LIFE OF BRIAN which then led to the long anagram, though I didn&#8217;t try, as with most long anagrams, to deconstruct the answer to get the fodder.  Favourites were 14A ESTATE CAR, 11A RIBOFLAVIN and 9D ABRAHAM&#8217;S BOSOM.</p>
<p>No-one&#8217;s mentioned it, but I recall Brian Blessed hollering as Blackadder&#8217;s father.</p>
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		<title>By: otter</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 16:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Andrew, and thanks Tramp. I too found this surprisingly easy, given the several long clues and linked clues.

Some lovely surfaces - those in RIBOFLAVIN and EPITAPH stand out, even though they were easy to get. 

22 would have been a lot better, in my view, without &#039;In Japan&#039;, which was unnecessary for the definition and made the clue too easy - I wrote it straight in after reading the first three words of the clue.

Anyway, that is a minor quibble in a very enjoyable puzzle. I have really enjoyed Tramp&#039;s first few Guardian puzzles, and look forward to more.

I see a few quibbles above in the construction of ASTRADDLE, given the hidden answer parsing. While this is neater than mine, the way I parsed it does get around the &#039;not all of&#039; quibble someone raised above. I saw it as ELD (&#039;not all held&#039;) + DARTS + A, all reversed.

All in all, a lovely end to the week, which has quite cheered me up after a somewhat difficult week. Thanks again, Tramp.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Andrew, and thanks Tramp. I too found this surprisingly easy, given the several long clues and linked clues.</p>
<p>Some lovely surfaces &#8211; those in RIBOFLAVIN and EPITAPH stand out, even though they were easy to get. </p>
<p>22 would have been a lot better, in my view, without &#8216;In Japan&#8217;, which was unnecessary for the definition and made the clue too easy &#8211; I wrote it straight in after reading the first three words of the clue.</p>
<p>Anyway, that is a minor quibble in a very enjoyable puzzle. I have really enjoyed Tramp&#8217;s first few Guardian puzzles, and look forward to more.</p>
<p>I see a few quibbles above in the construction of ASTRADDLE, given the hidden answer parsing. While this is neater than mine, the way I parsed it does get around the &#8216;not all of&#8217; quibble someone raised above. I saw it as ELD (&#8216;not all held&#8217;) + DARTS + A, all reversed.</p>
<p>All in all, a lovely end to the week, which has quite cheered me up after a somewhat difficult week. Thanks again, Tramp.</p>
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