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	<title>Comments on: Independent 7,734 by Monk (Saturday Prize Puzzle, 30/07/11)</title>
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		<title>By: Monk</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/08/06/independent-7734-by-monk/#comment-166926</link>
		<dc:creator>Monk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 15:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I did wonder how many solvers would fall into the &quot;tic&quot; trap at 22ac.

Anax@9 gives my intended explanation about &quot;right/done&quot;, but I too like Stella&#039;s@6. Interesting to hear that the NE corner caused Anax a delay, because this underwent a reconstruction following Eimi&#039;s observation that MISCASTED, replaced with MUDLARKED, although in Tea&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Edited English&lt;/i&gt; dictionary (based on Princeton&#039;s WordNet project), is not confirmed in any of the &quot;standard&quot; dictionaries.

Many thanks to all for the positive comments and especially to Simon for a super blog.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did wonder how many solvers would fall into the &#8220;tic&#8221; trap at 22ac.</p>
<p>Anax@9 gives my intended explanation about &#8220;right/done&#8221;, but I too like Stella&#8217;s@6. Interesting to hear that the NE corner caused Anax a delay, because this underwent a reconstruction following Eimi&#8217;s observation that MISCASTED, replaced with MUDLARKED, although in Tea&#8217;s <i>Edited English</i> dictionary (based on Princeton&#8217;s WordNet project), is not confirmed in any of the &#8220;standard&#8221; dictionaries.</p>
<p>Many thanks to all for the positive comments and especially to Simon for a super blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Stella Heath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stella Heath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 21:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to agree, though mine was a good image :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree, though mine was a good image <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: superkiwigirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>superkiwigirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 16:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This time it&#039;s thanks to anax and Stella - both of your explanations of &#039;right&#039;/&#039;done&#039; seem plausible (hope you don&#039;t mind though, Stella, but if I had to choose I would go with anax).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This time it&#8217;s thanks to anax and Stella &#8211; both of your explanations of &#8216;right&#8217;/'done&#8217; seem plausible (hope you don&#8217;t mind though, Stella, but if I had to choose I would go with anax).</p>
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		<title>By: anax</title>
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		<dc:creator>anax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 16:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After a busy day, finally got round to tackling this one and very rewarding it was too - the cyclical treatment didn&#039;t take too long to spot but the NE corner trio held me up. Terrific fun, and an unusual, quirky puzzle.

My reading of &#039;right&#039;/&#039;done&#039; was along the lines of &#039;the done/right thing&#039; but I like Stella&#039;s interpretation too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After a busy day, finally got round to tackling this one and very rewarding it was too &#8211; the cyclical treatment didn&#8217;t take too long to spot but the NE corner trio held me up. Terrific fun, and an unusual, quirky puzzle.</p>
<p>My reading of &#8216;right&#8217;/'done&#8217; was along the lines of &#8216;the done/right thing&#8217; but I like Stella&#8217;s interpretation too.</p>
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		<title>By: superkiwigirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>superkiwigirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 16:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Allan_C.

Yes, having re-read the clue I agree with you entirely - just  goes to show that one shouldn&#039;t snatch unthinkingly at the first apparent word to do service as an anagrind!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Allan_C.</p>
<p>Yes, having re-read the clue I agree with you entirely &#8211; just  goes to show that one shouldn&#8217;t snatch unthinkingly at the first apparent word to do service as an anagrind!</p>
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		<title>By: Allan_C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan_C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 15:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, superkiwigirl, for introducing me to a word I&#039;ve never heard before: causalgia.  So in return here is the clue you can&#039;t check from yesterday&#039;s 14d: &quot;Dodgy Sunday tea, unfinished, abandoned (8)&quot;.  Hope Gaufrid doesn&#039;t rule it out of order in today&#039;s comments.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, superkiwigirl, for introducing me to a word I&#8217;ve never heard before: causalgia.  So in return here is the clue you can&#8217;t check from yesterday&#8217;s 14d: &#8220;Dodgy Sunday tea, unfinished, abandoned (8)&#8221;.  Hope Gaufrid doesn&#8217;t rule it out of order in today&#8217;s comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Stella Heath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stella Heath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 14:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Simon. I&#039;ve not much to add, as my experience was much the same as others&#039;, but re &#039;right&#039;=DONE, think of it as the possible answer to an order/request: &quot;Will you put the kettle on?&quot; &quot;Right/done&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Simon. I&#8217;ve not much to add, as my experience was much the same as others&#8217;, but re &#8216;right&#8217;=DONE, think of it as the possible answer to an order/request: &#8220;Will you put the kettle on?&#8221; &#8220;Right/done&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: superkiwigirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>superkiwigirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 13:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many thanks for your excellent blog, Simon, and for a terrific puzzle, Monk - really very enjoyable, and I&#039;m very pleased to have got it completed.

I took the same approach as you did, Simon, trying to get as many of the &quot;standard&quot; solutions in before beginning on the &quot;specials&quot;, but I have to admit that even once I&#039;d got the 3 in the south eastern corner (AD-MEN was a fairly straight forward lead in) I still struggled for longer than I should have done (at least, that&#039;s how it seemed once the penny dropped). I think my error was in thinking at that stage that all of the &quot;specials&quot; were going to be anagrams of the same 5 letters so that initially I discarded words like DREAM and only came back to them later.

Like everyone else it seems I initially fell into the &quot;....tic trap&quot; before flirting briefly with &quot;causalgia&quot; until it dawned that the &quot;u&quot;was misplaced and I tried NEURALGIA.

Lots of excellent clues I agree, though I am also puzzled by &quot;done&quot;=&quot;right&quot; at 1 ac. As for ABALONE, hats off to you Allan_C, your parsing is surely spot on. (A propos of which, you are also probably correct for the parsing of Phi&#039;s UNSTEADY yesterday - unfortunately, though, as an exclusively online solver I can&#039;t now go back to check the wording of the clue!)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks for your excellent blog, Simon, and for a terrific puzzle, Monk &#8211; really very enjoyable, and I&#8217;m very pleased to have got it completed.</p>
<p>I took the same approach as you did, Simon, trying to get as many of the &#8220;standard&#8221; solutions in before beginning on the &#8220;specials&#8221;, but I have to admit that even once I&#8217;d got the 3 in the south eastern corner (AD-MEN was a fairly straight forward lead in) I still struggled for longer than I should have done (at least, that&#8217;s how it seemed once the penny dropped). I think my error was in thinking at that stage that all of the &#8220;specials&#8221; were going to be anagrams of the same 5 letters so that initially I discarded words like DREAM and only came back to them later.</p>
<p>Like everyone else it seems I initially fell into the &#8220;&#8230;.tic trap&#8221; before flirting briefly with &#8220;causalgia&#8221; until it dawned that the &#8220;u&#8221;was misplaced and I tried NEURALGIA.</p>
<p>Lots of excellent clues I agree, though I am also puzzled by &#8220;done&#8221;=&#8221;right&#8221; at 1 ac. As for ABALONE, hats off to you Allan_C, your parsing is surely spot on. (A propos of which, you are also probably correct for the parsing of Phi&#8217;s UNSTEADY yesterday &#8211; unfortunately, though, as an exclusively online solver I can&#8217;t now go back to check the wording of the clue!)</p>
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		<title>By: nmsindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>nmsindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 09:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My experience was very similar, a very tough puzzle indeed until I saw the idea being used, after that, pretty much plain sailing.  Some excellent clues, and, yes, I too had pencilled in TIC.    Thanks, Simon and Monk.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My experience was very similar, a very tough puzzle indeed until I saw the idea being used, after that, pretty much plain sailing.  Some excellent clues, and, yes, I too had pencilled in TIC.    Thanks, Simon and Monk.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 08:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Allan. I forgot to mention that I too spent time trying to make --TIC or --ATIC fit at 22ac. I suspect we won&#039;t be the only ones!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Allan. I forgot to mention that I too spent time trying to make &#8211;TIC or &#8211;ATIC fit at 22ac. I suspect we won&#8217;t be the only ones!</p>
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