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		<title>By: tupu</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 21:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Eileen and Orlando for an excellent blog of a very clever puzzle

After spending a lot of time on Saturday&#039;s double, I had a busy day today and only got round to this one this evening. I eventually got and understood it all, but I was badly held up in the SW. I was sure that 22d must be &#039;folio&#039; (a Minister&#039;s concerns are his portfolio, and this minus one side (port) gives &#039;folio&#039; (a document)! Of course this threw me badly out for 21a and 25a. At least I magnaged to think myself out of this mess having thought myself into it.

I liked 1a, 2a, 13a, 3d, 16d, and 24d.

A great puzzle in retrospect and at times along the way, but by the time I came to it, I rather missed the quicker solve Rufus usually provides!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Eileen and Orlando for an excellent blog of a very clever puzzle</p>
<p>After spending a lot of time on Saturday&#8217;s double, I had a busy day today and only got round to this one this evening. I eventually got and understood it all, but I was badly held up in the SW. I was sure that 22d must be &#8216;folio&#8217; (a Minister&#8217;s concerns are his portfolio, and this minus one side (port) gives &#8216;folio&#8217; (a document)! Of course this threw me badly out for 21a and 25a. At least I magnaged to think myself out of this mess having thought myself into it.</p>
<p>I liked 1a, 2a, 13a, 3d, 16d, and 24d.</p>
<p>A great puzzle in retrospect and at times along the way, but by the time I came to it, I rather missed the quicker solve Rufus usually provides!</p>
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		<title>By: nmsindy</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 20:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Paris Metro stations have been done before - I&#039;ve a clear and distinct recollection as I blogged it but missed the theme!   A Saturday Indy by Merlin quite a while back, if memory serves.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paris Metro stations have been done before &#8211; I&#8217;ve a clear and distinct recollection as I blogged it but missed the theme!   A Saturday Indy by Merlin quite a while back, if memory serves.</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 20:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Orlando

Thanks for dropping in - it&#039;s always good to hear from you!

I do indeed remember the Battle of Solferino from O Level Unification of Italy! [as I said, &#039;from the back of the mind&#039;, as Bamber Gascoigne used to say] - it&#039;s just that I&#039;ve seen SALERNO a number of times in crosswords because it&#039;s conveniently an anagram [&#039;new&#039;!] of &#039;Orleans&#039;.

[&quot;One of these days I am going to set a puzzle with a hidden theme of Paris Metro stations, so Solferino may crop up again in that context. Be warned!&quot;] Oh dear!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Orlando</p>
<p>Thanks for dropping in &#8211; it&#8217;s always good to hear from you!</p>
<p>I do indeed remember the Battle of Solferino from O Level Unification of Italy! [as I said, 'from the back of the mind', as Bamber Gascoigne used to say] &#8211; it&#8217;s just that I&#8217;ve seen SALERNO a number of times in crosswords because it&#8217;s conveniently an anagram ['new'!] of &#8216;Orleans&#8217;.</p>
<p>["One of these days I am going to set a puzzle with a hidden theme of Paris Metro stations, so Solferino may crop up again in that context. Be warned!"] Oh dear!</p>
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		<title>By: Orlando</title>
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		<dc:creator>Orlando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 19:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Eileen,

Thank you for the blog, and thanks to all who have commented.

I remember the battle of Solferino from O-level history [Europe 1815-1914] - remember O-levels? Apropos, there is a Rue de Solférino in Paris and a Metro station called Solférino, near the Musée d&#039;Orsay. One of these days I am going to set a puzzle with a hidden theme of Paris Metro stations, so Solferino may crop up again in that context. Be warned!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Eileen,</p>
<p>Thank you for the blog, and thanks to all who have commented.</p>
<p>I remember the battle of Solferino from O-level history [Europe 1815-1914] &#8211; remember O-levels? Apropos, there is a Rue de Solférino in Paris and a Metro station called Solférino, near the Musée d&#8217;Orsay. One of these days I am going to set a puzzle with a hidden theme of Paris Metro stations, so Solferino may crop up again in that context. Be warned!</p>
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		<title>By: MattD</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 19:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fun with some new words for me. Nice after over 24 hours battling with saturday&#039;s prize monster. 

Any crossword with meson is good for me!

Thanks eileen for explaining the last one. Flowers is a misdirect I usually pick up on but failed to see it thus time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fun with some new words for me. Nice after over 24 hours battling with saturday&#8217;s prize monster. </p>
<p>Any crossword with meson is good for me!</p>
<p>Thanks eileen for explaining the last one. Flowers is a misdirect I usually pick up on but failed to see it thus time.</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 18:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi caretman and Lopakhin

I thought ENOUNCE was really well hidden. I&#039;m still not sure where the indicator is - which is why I didn&#039;t mention it! I could make out a case, I think, for either &#039;have&#039; or &#039;out&#039;.

caretman, re SOLFERINO: this was somewhere in the back of my mind but the first thing that leaped up was SALERNO [since my dad was involved in it, I think] but, of course, as you say, it didn&#039;t fit! Just for the record, and for future reference, I can&#039;t find I = Ireland anywhere. I is the IVR for Italy [and IRL for Ireland].

[I&#039;m sure everyone here is relieved that your weather has been less severe than feared. We were thinking of you.]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi caretman and Lopakhin</p>
<p>I thought ENOUNCE was really well hidden. I&#8217;m still not sure where the indicator is &#8211; which is why I didn&#8217;t mention it! I could make out a case, I think, for either &#8216;have&#8217; or &#8216;out&#8217;.</p>
<p>caretman, re SOLFERINO: this was somewhere in the back of my mind but the first thing that leaped up was SALERNO [since my dad was involved in it, I think] but, of course, as you say, it didn&#8217;t fit! Just for the record, and for future reference, I can&#8217;t find I = Ireland anywhere. I is the IVR for Italy [and IRL for Ireland].</p>
<p>[I'm sure everyone here is relieved that your weather has been less severe than feared. We were thinking of you.]</p>
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		<title>By: caretman</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 18:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Eileen, for the blog. 

After spending the weekend working out the prize puzzle, and now with probably spending the next few days figuring out how 4-5 of those clues work, it was good to have a gentle beginning to the week.  

Lopakhin @7, you&#039;re not the only one who missed the hidden answer in 11a.  I thought it was a homophone clue with &quot;speak out&quot; acting as both the indicator of the homophone and what the light was to be a homophone of (&quot;announce&quot;).

I had to look up OFLAG and SOLFERINO to confirm.  In fact, for the latter, I initially thought it might be SALFERINO, with F(rance) and I(reland) in SALERNO, a battle I was much more familiar with, even though I doubted that the result would be word meaning &quot;alone.&quot;  I was just one letter off.

So thanks, Orlando, for a fun start to the week.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Eileen, for the blog. </p>
<p>After spending the weekend working out the prize puzzle, and now with probably spending the next few days figuring out how 4-5 of those clues work, it was good to have a gentle beginning to the week.  </p>
<p>Lopakhin @7, you&#8217;re not the only one who missed the hidden answer in 11a.  I thought it was a homophone clue with &#8220;speak out&#8221; acting as both the indicator of the homophone and what the light was to be a homophone of (&#8220;announce&#8221;).</p>
<p>I had to look up OFLAG and SOLFERINO to confirm.  In fact, for the latter, I initially thought it might be SALFERINO, with F(rance) and I(reland) in SALERNO, a battle I was much more familiar with, even though I doubted that the result would be word meaning &#8220;alone.&#8221;  I was just one letter off.</p>
<p>So thanks, Orlando, for a fun start to the week.</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi gm4hqf

I&#039;ve saved you the trouble - just click on the link! :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi gm4hqf</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve saved you the trouble &#8211; just click on the link! <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: gm4hqf</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Eileen &amp; Orlando

Quite a nice puzzle although I have never heard of EL MISTI or the battle of SOLFERINO. Crimean war? I will have to Google it.

For a start I entered ALMOST ALL for 7D and this held me up for a while.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Eileen &amp; Orlando</p>
<p>Quite a nice puzzle although I have never heard of EL MISTI or the battle of SOLFERINO. Crimean war? I will have to Google it.</p>
<p>For a start I entered ALMOST ALL for 7D and this held me up for a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Lopakhin</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 14:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stella @ 2: The wonderful Ms F will not thank you for misspelling her surname - though it&#039;s probably happened many times before; she&#039;s FAITHFULL.  An adjective she isn&#039;t!

Agreed: a satisfying session with Orlando - but how did I not spot ENOUNCE hidden in there?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stella @ 2: The wonderful Ms F will not thank you for misspelling her surname &#8211; though it&#8217;s probably happened many times before; she&#8217;s FAITHFULL.  An adjective she isn&#8217;t!</p>
<p>Agreed: a satisfying session with Orlando &#8211; but how did I not spot ENOUNCE hidden in there?</p>
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