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	<title>Comments on: Financial Times 13,812 / Falcon</title>
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	<description>Never knowingly undersolved.</description>
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		<title>By: Bamberger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bamberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 17:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I got about half of this out by just looking at the clue and writing the answer in. Then I came to a grinding halt and gave up 30 minutes later with not a single further clue solved. Of course the more you get the more chance you get of solving further ones but I would never have got 23a,16d, 17d &amp; 22d never having heard of them. I have heard of the verb &quot;to torch&quot; but hadn&#039;t heard of the noun &quot;torch&quot; in this context. 
For 3d I was lookign of an anagram of something and never thought that I was after another phrase for on the rocks.
Pretty tough overall  I thought.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got about half of this out by just looking at the clue and writing the answer in. Then I came to a grinding halt and gave up 30 minutes later with not a single further clue solved. Of course the more you get the more chance you get of solving further ones but I would never have got 23a,16d, 17d &amp; 22d never having heard of them. I have heard of the verb &#8220;to torch&#8221; but hadn&#8217;t heard of the noun &#8220;torch&#8221; in this context.<br />
For 3d I was lookign of an anagram of something and never thought that I was after another phrase for on the rocks.<br />
Pretty tough overall  I thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Pelham Barton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pelham Barton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 15:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve @5: Thanks for that. I think that makes 3dn acceptable, or at worst a totally forgiveable error.

Incidentally I could also point out that 29ac is one of those rare clues that has two equally good parsings with the same answer: I had it as [HALL + *(GEN)] in CE, but Gaufrid&#039;s (HALL in CE) + *(GEN) works just as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve @5: Thanks for that. I think that makes 3dn acceptable, or at worst a totally forgiveable error.</p>
<p>Incidentally I could also point out that 29ac is one of those rare clues that has two equally good parsings with the same answer: I had it as [HALL + *(GEN)] in CE, but Gaufrid&#8217;s (HALL in CE) + *(GEN) works just as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 15:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with the above comments re 3dn. FYI, the official Tony Awards website refers to the trophy as a statuette: http://www.tonyawards.com/presskit/ (scroll down towards the bottom of the page). However, I&#039;m not claiming that this usage by a PR hack provides a convincing justification ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the above comments re 3dn. FYI, the official Tony Awards website refers to the trophy as a statuette: <a href="http://www.tonyawards.com/presskit/" rel="nofollow">http://www.tonyawards.com/presskit/</a> (scroll down towards the bottom of the page). However, I&#8217;m not claiming that this usage by a PR hack provides a convincing justification &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rishi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rishi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 14:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gaufrid

On reading your intro but without moving further down, I guessed that you must be referring to the Christie novel &lt;i&gt;N or M&lt;/i&gt;. I have seen clues with that wordplay before.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gaufrid</p>
<p>On reading your intro but without moving further down, I guessed that you must be referring to the Christie novel <i>N or M</i>. I have seen clues with that wordplay before.</p>
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		<title>By: Pelham Barton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pelham Barton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 12:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gaufrid @2: Thanks for that. I am always glad to have a misapprehension corrected.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gaufrid @2: Thanks for that. I am always glad to have a misapprehension corrected.</p>
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		<title>By: Gaufrid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gaufrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 12:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Pelham
There is no problem with 11ac. Had you delved a little deeper into Wikipedia you would have found that Mark Antony&#039;s mother, Julia Caesaris, was a cousin of Julius Caesar.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Pelham<br />
There is no problem with 11ac. Had you delved a little deeper into Wikipedia you would have found that Mark Antony&#8217;s mother, Julia Caesaris, was a cousin of Julius Caesar.</p>
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		<title>By: Pelham Barton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pelham Barton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 12:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Falcon for a pleasant puzzle and Gaufrid for the blog.

Re 3dn: I have tried to persuade myself that mounting the Tony medallion on its substantial base makes the whole thing a statuette - and failed. I think you are right that Falcon has slipped up here.

The one that caused me to raise an eyebrow when solving was 11ac. Is (or, rather, was) Mark Antony a relation of Julius Caesar? Wikipedia says &quot;important supporter and loyal friend&quot;.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Antony

Of course, neither of these possible lapses made the clues unsolvable, and I would be only too happy if someone can find a convincing justification for either of these clues.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Falcon for a pleasant puzzle and Gaufrid for the blog.</p>
<p>Re 3dn: I have tried to persuade myself that mounting the Tony medallion on its substantial base makes the whole thing a statuette &#8211; and failed. I think you are right that Falcon has slipped up here.</p>
<p>The one that caused me to raise an eyebrow when solving was 11ac. Is (or, rather, was) Mark Antony a relation of Julius Caesar? Wikipedia says &#8220;important supporter and loyal friend&#8221;.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Antony" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Antony</a></p>
<p>Of course, neither of these possible lapses made the clues unsolvable, and I would be only too happy if someone can find a convincing justification for either of these clues.</p>
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