Comments on: Independent 7833 by Dac

By: flashling

flashling — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 18:42:57 +0000

Both dish meaning ruin and wrinkles hints, are in my Chambers – admittedly hardly the first entries though but since I knew both I assumed others did too, sorry about that. At Paul A#1 I’ve got the filled in dead tree next to me and I didn’t notice the incorrect enumeration – oops.

By: NealH

NealH — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 18:25:22 +0000

4 across gave me the most trouble here, largely because I was half-convinced it must have an anagram of wiped in it. I’d just about heard of wrinkles, although I can’t say it was the first word that jumped to mind. I liked the Clegg &lit.

By: nmsindy

nmsindy — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 16:21:50 +0000

Good as always, a little harder than usual for Dac. That’s a meaning of ‘wrinkle’ all right, K’s D, and I guess it would have to have, as it does, a different root to the better-known wrinkle as that’s relevant to the definition itself. Thanks, flashling (BTW, I think regular Indy solvers are quite happy to be ‘troubled’ as I was with a few clues here), and Dac.

By: Thomas99

Thomas99 — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 16:18:11 +0000

Dish was familiar to me, although I wouldn’t use it myself or even know how to, exactly. But wrinkle for hint was baffling and I hesitated to put it in. But here it is, in the Free Online Dictionary:

wrinkle (2)
n
Informal a clever or useful trick, hint, or dodge

So now we know. I’m pretty sure I’ve never come across it though.

By: Kathryn's Dad

Kathryn's Dad — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 15:17:22 +0000

Thanks, flashling.

I struggled with a few here. Dish for ‘ruin’ was new to me too, and wrinkles for hints? Can’t find that one. So for me a little harder than usual for a Wednesday, but with some clever Dac clueing as always. Liked CLEGG in particular.

By: Allan_C

Allan_C — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 14:22:38 +0000

Ian W @2

Chambers has ‘to ruin (colloq.)’ among the meanings of ‘dish’ as a verb. Not an expression I use myself but it was used frequently in our household when I was young.

By: Ian W.

Ian W. — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 13:20:42 +0000

Still can’t parse 9d. Why is dish “ruin”?

By: Paul A

Paul A — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 13:12:21 +0000

Couldn’t parse 9d properly. Thanks – also dead tree version has 25ac as 6,5 which threw me a bit.