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	<title>Comments on: Guardian 25,495 &#8211; Gordius</title>
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		<title>By: RCWhiting</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/12/02/guardian-25495-gordius/#comment-176183</link>
		<dc:creator>RCWhiting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 22:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you turn &#039;Africa barter&#039;over you get &#039;retrAB ACIrfa&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you turn &#8216;Africa barter&#8217;over you get &#8216;retrAB ACIrfa&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Davy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 19:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To Innocent Abroad,

In 26a, &#039;E&#039; is also the international registration letter for Spain so I think the clue is fine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Innocent Abroad,</p>
<p>In 26a, &#8216;E&#8217; is also the international registration letter for Spain so I think the clue is fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Innocent Abroad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Innocent Abroad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 14:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I only got four clues, and now I&#039;ve seen the answers I&#039;m not at all surprised. 

I have lots of quibbles but will only bore you with a couple. I agree with Mick H [25] - clues with two solutions are just unfair. And clueing &quot;e&quot; as &quot;Spain&quot; because it&#039;s the initial letter of &lt;i&gt;Espana&lt;/i&gt; is surely a bridge too far, whilst using &quot;over&quot; to indicate position in an across clue is even further than that, surely.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I only got four clues, and now I&#8217;ve seen the answers I&#8217;m not at all surprised. </p>
<p>I have lots of quibbles but will only bore you with a couple. I agree with Mick H [25] &#8211; clues with two solutions are just unfair. And clueing &#8220;e&#8221; as &#8220;Spain&#8221; because it&#8217;s the initial letter of <i>Espana</i> is surely a bridge too far, whilst using &#8220;over&#8221; to indicate position in an across clue is even further than that, surely.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisChods</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisChods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 13:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the blog, Andrew. Came on here today having just downloaded the pdf for the prize, which also shows the solution to the previous day&#039;s puzzle of course. I was a little taken aback by LOTTO at 3d, which I didn&#039;t recognize, then remembered this too was my last in, and I had inserted a guess (for what it&#039;s worth, HOSTS) in my grid. While I accept my guess was wrong, (&#039;house&#039;(vb) to equal &#039;host&#039; + has = &#039;s giving hosts, lots to see) I feel my guess makes better use of the clue than the answer, LOTTO, with that redundant &#039;see&#039;, (maybe that of the Bishop of Bath and Wells). Yes, I&#039;m a little annoyed by the true answer, and  think this is one of the weakest clues I have seen in a Guardian Crossword. A shame because otherwise I was enjoying the puzzle, but the editor ought to have a word about this clue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the blog, Andrew. Came on here today having just downloaded the pdf for the prize, which also shows the solution to the previous day&#8217;s puzzle of course. I was a little taken aback by LOTTO at 3d, which I didn&#8217;t recognize, then remembered this too was my last in, and I had inserted a guess (for what it&#8217;s worth, HOSTS) in my grid. While I accept my guess was wrong, (&#8216;house&#8217;(vb) to equal &#8216;host&#8217; + has = &#8216;s giving hosts, lots to see) I feel my guess makes better use of the clue than the answer, LOTTO, with that redundant &#8216;see&#8217;, (maybe that of the Bishop of Bath and Wells). Yes, I&#8217;m a little annoyed by the true answer, and  think this is one of the weakest clues I have seen in a Guardian Crossword. A shame because otherwise I was enjoying the puzzle, but the editor ought to have a word about this clue.</p>
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		<title>By: fearsome</title>
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		<dc:creator>fearsome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 13:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lotto was my last answer and I was not still not sure of it. The final &quot;see&quot; in the clue puzzled me. Am I missing something?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lotto was my last answer and I was not still not sure of it. The final &#8220;see&#8221; in the clue puzzled me. Am I missing something?</p>
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		<title>By: bingybong</title>
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		<dc:creator>bingybong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 23:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seeing the generally-positive responses to &#039;paperback&#039; is quite reassuring. As someone who did the Times Crossword for many many years I was rather shocked to be told that &#039;slaphead&#039; was not a fair indicator for &#039;S&#039; in a clue I&#039;d submitted to another site, and would &quot;never be allowed&quot; on a Times puzzle. Whether that&#039;s true or not I&#039;m still not sure but it certainly raised the hackles of a couple of strict Ximeneans.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seeing the generally-positive responses to &#8216;paperback&#8217; is quite reassuring. As someone who did the Times Crossword for many many years I was rather shocked to be told that &#8216;slaphead&#8217; was not a fair indicator for &#8216;S&#8217; in a clue I&#8217;d submitted to another site, and would &#8220;never be allowed&#8221; on a Times puzzle. Whether that&#8217;s true or not I&#8217;m still not sure but it certainly raised the hackles of a couple of strict Ximeneans.</p>
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		<title>By: gm4hqf</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Andrew and Gordius

I also entered RUED for a start, seemed to make more sense.

Had to think for a while over MAHARAJA, COEQUAL and PARENTAGE but otherwise not too difficult.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Andrew and Gordius</p>
<p>I also entered RUED for a start, seemed to make more sense.</p>
<p>Had to think for a while over MAHARAJA, COEQUAL and PARENTAGE but otherwise not too difficult.</p>
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		<title>By: Mick H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mick H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m surprised the RUDE/RUED ambiguity got through. I think most editors see that kind of clue as unfair. I felt it read better as a clue to RUED - as, clearly, did most people here. Surely that&#039;s not viewed as a legitimate way to trick the solver?
Enjoyable otherwise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised the RUDE/RUED ambiguity got through. I think most editors see that kind of clue as unfair. I felt it read better as a clue to RUED &#8211; as, clearly, did most people here. Surely that&#8217;s not viewed as a legitimate way to trick the solver?<br />
Enjoyable otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: stiofain</title>
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		<dc:creator>stiofain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought the paperback device was oone of the few good points in this - at least he didnt shoehorn in his usual biblical stuff]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the paperback device was oone of the few good points in this &#8211; at least he didnt shoehorn in his usual biblical stuff</p>
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		<title>By: chas</title>
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		<dc:creator>chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 17:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The other thing I meant to say in my previous post was about 1d.

I found paperback perfectly OK. After all we are used to seeing &#039;in Gateshead&#039; as a way of indicating ING so this is just a similar example.

I am sure there have been other instances but I cannot remember any more at the moment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other thing I meant to say in my previous post was about 1d.</p>
<p>I found paperback perfectly OK. After all we are used to seeing &#8216;in Gateshead&#8217; as a way of indicating ING so this is just a similar example.</p>
<p>I am sure there have been other instances but I cannot remember any more at the moment.</p>
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