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		<title>By: David W</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2011/12/10/guardian-25496-crucible/#comment-176730</link>
		<dc:creator>David W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m with Biggles A at #1 in being disappointed with Crucible&#039;s use of some kind of private symbolism in 15, and the consequent obscurity of 1.  I also did not care for the non-dictionary obelix.

Perhaps I&#039;m just a poor loser, but I think a better puzzle might have from having &lt;i&gt;either&lt;/i&gt; the rainbow theme &lt;i&gt;or&lt;/i&gt; the pangram - but not both.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Biggles A at #1 in being disappointed with Crucible&#8217;s use of some kind of private symbolism in 15, and the consequent obscurity of 1.  I also did not care for the non-dictionary obelix.</p>
<p>Perhaps I&#8217;m just a poor loser, but I think a better puzzle might have from having <i>either</i> the rainbow theme <i>or</i> the pangram &#8211; but not both.</p>
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		<title>By: Robi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Too busy yesterday to respond - I got YELLOW quite quickly, so the rainbow colours revealed themselves early on; entertaining puzzle.

Thanks mhl for the blog. As a useless piece of additional information, I found that a pre-Elvis country version of HOUND DOG by Charlie Gore &amp; Louis Innis was recorded at King studios - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hound_Dog_(song)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too busy yesterday to respond &#8211; I got YELLOW quite quickly, so the rainbow colours revealed themselves early on; entertaining puzzle.</p>
<p>Thanks mhl for the blog. As a useless piece of additional information, I found that a pre-Elvis country version of HOUND DOG by Charlie Gore &amp; Louis Innis was recorded at King studios &#8211; see <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hound_Dog_(song)" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hound_Dog_(song)</a></p>
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		<title>By: Giovanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Giovanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks,Crucible for a fun puzzle - once I got in to it!Thanks, as always, to mhl for explaining the ones I guessed!

I didn&#039;t spot the hidden green for a while and went for the highly dubious erba hidden in beer barrel ( Italian for grass, which is green) - far too devious for my own good sometimes!!

Giovanna]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks,Crucible for a fun puzzle &#8211; once I got in to it!Thanks, as always, to mhl for explaining the ones I guessed!</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t spot the hidden green for a while and went for the highly dubious erba hidden in beer barrel ( Italian for grass, which is green) &#8211; far too devious for my own good sometimes!!</p>
<p>Giovanna</p>
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		<title>By: Gervase</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gervase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 18:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I forgot to mention that I did spot that the puzzle was a pangram, which helped with a few recalcitrant answers.  Strangely, pangrams are something that I usually DO notice, unlike Ninas or hidden themes.  My most egregious &#039;failure to notice&#039; was in a Brummie puzzle a few years ago, which contained the words SNOW and WHITE, as well as the names of all seven dwarfs.  But because he hadn&#039;t flagged it up, I missed it entirely, despite finishing the crossword.  D&#039;oh!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to mention that I did spot that the puzzle was a pangram, which helped with a few recalcitrant answers.  Strangely, pangrams are something that I usually DO notice, unlike Ninas or hidden themes.  My most egregious &#8216;failure to notice&#8217; was in a Brummie puzzle a few years ago, which contained the words SNOW and WHITE, as well as the names of all seven dwarfs.  But because he hadn&#8217;t flagged it up, I missed it entirely, despite finishing the crossword.  D&#8217;oh!</p>
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		<title>By: stiofain</title>
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		<dc:creator>stiofain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 16:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I found the pangram useful too with the j and k answers. Very enjoyable and great to see one of Crucibles too rare outings. Loved the Elvis clue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found the pangram useful too with the j and k answers. Very enjoyable and great to see one of Crucibles too rare outings. Loved the Elvis clue.</p>
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		<title>By: Wolfie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wolfie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 16:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks mhl for the blog and to Crucible for an enjoyable puzzle.

Tupu @10 - I was struggling with my last in - 8ac - until I realised that in order for the puzzle to be a pangram there needed to be a J in the solution.  Hey presto: Sarajevo! So, not boring - useful....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks mhl for the blog and to Crucible for an enjoyable puzzle.</p>
<p>Tupu @10 &#8211; I was struggling with my last in &#8211; 8ac &#8211; until I realised that in order for the puzzle to be a pangram there needed to be a J in the solution.  Hey presto: Sarajevo! So, not boring &#8211; useful&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: tupu</title>
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		<dc:creator>tupu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 15:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks mhl and Crucible.

An excellent puzzle with some witty clues. :) I didn&#039;t notice it was a pangram - I gave up looking after one a couple of weeks ago when I had been pleased to signal it and the response seemed to be &#039;how boring&#039;!

I agree with Gervase about Limousines. Given the word links directly to Limoges and Limo is a customary abbreviation for it, there didn&#039;t seem much cryptic content left.

I particularly liked &#039;lake&#039;, Hound dog, and yellow.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks mhl and Crucible.</p>
<p>An excellent puzzle with some witty clues. <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I didn&#8217;t notice it was a pangram &#8211; I gave up looking after one a couple of weeks ago when I had been pleased to signal it and the response seemed to be &#8216;how boring&#8217;!</p>
<p>I agree with Gervase about Limousines. Given the word links directly to Limoges and Limo is a customary abbreviation for it, there didn&#8217;t seem much cryptic content left.</p>
<p>I particularly liked &#8216;lake&#8217;, Hound dog, and yellow.</p>
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		<title>By: mhl</title>
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		<dc:creator>mhl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 14:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Gervase - you&#039;re quite right in assuming that I just had Asterix in my mind when I wrote the preamble&#160;:)  Thanks for the correction...

NeilW: thanks for pointing out that it&#039;s a pangram - I&#039;ll update the post, since I (as usual) completely missed that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Gervase &#8211; you&#8217;re quite right in assuming that I just had Asterix in my mind when I wrote the preamble&nbsp;:)  Thanks for the correction&#8230;</p>
<p>NeilW: thanks for pointing out that it&#8217;s a pangram &#8211; I&#8217;ll update the post, since I (as usual) completely missed that.</p>
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		<title>By: r_c_a_d</title>
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		<dc:creator>r_c_a_d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 12:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the blog.

When I saw the instructions I thought &quot;this could be tricky ... Unless it is just 7 colours of the rainbow&quot;. 4 and 19 quickly confirmed the latter and the colours weren&#039;t hard to find. 

But. I found some of the other clues quite hard and didn&#039;t get 1 or 15.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the blog.</p>
<p>When I saw the instructions I thought &#8220;this could be tricky &#8230; Unless it is just 7 colours of the rainbow&#8221;. 4 and 19 quickly confirmed the latter and the colours weren&#8217;t hard to find. </p>
<p>But. I found some of the other clues quite hard and didn&#8217;t get 1 or 15.</p>
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		<title>By: dunsscotus</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 09:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many thanks to Crucible and mhl: most enjoyable.  To BgglesA@1.  It may be a bit RC, but I&#039;m very used to &#039;PP&#039; for &#039;Parish Priest&#039; and therefore have little trouble with &#039;P&#039; for &#039;Priest&#039;.  I&#039;ve met it before in puzzles.

Particularly liked the Elvis clue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks to Crucible and mhl: most enjoyable.  To BgglesA@1.  It may be a bit RC, but I&#8217;m very used to &#8216;PP&#8217; for &#8216;Parish Priest&#8217; and therefore have little trouble with &#8216;P&#8217; for &#8216;Priest&#8217;.  I&#8217;ve met it before in puzzles.</p>
<p>Particularly liked the Elvis clue.</p>
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