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	<title>Comments on: Guardian 25,520 / Paul</title>
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		<title>By: Giovanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Giovanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2012 20:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Paul for a good brainteaser and mhl for his explanations.

 My heart sank when I saw a Mexican theme! 

However the one clue which held me up was 12a, as Mallard is a locomotive and not a train. Incidentally, as most of you will know, Mallard gained the world speed record for steam traction on Sunday 3rd July 1938 whilst taking part in a series of high speed braking trials for Westinghouse.126mph was achieved whilst descending Stoke bank at Essendine. This record remains unbroken.

Giovanna]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Paul for a good brainteaser and mhl for his explanations.</p>
<p> My heart sank when I saw a Mexican theme! </p>
<p>However the one clue which held me up was 12a, as Mallard is a locomotive and not a train. Incidentally, as most of you will know, Mallard gained the world speed record for steam traction on Sunday 3rd July 1938 whilst taking part in a series of high speed braking trials for Westinghouse.126mph was achieved whilst descending Stoke bank at Essendine. This record remains unbroken.</p>
<p>Giovanna</p>
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		<title>By: Biggles A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Biggles A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 22:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks mhl. I got there in the end with internet assistance but, like Dave Ellison, needed your help to understand 2, 5 and 17 - and 25. Funnily enough, 22d went in immediately.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks mhl. I got there in the end with internet assistance but, like Dave Ellison, needed your help to understand 2, 5 and 17 &#8211; and 25. Funnily enough, 22d went in immediately.</p>
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		<title>By: mhl</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 15:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dave Ellison: Doch, as they are usefully able to say here - my &quot;(!)&quot; meant &quot;this is an outrageous definition&quot;, although it did make me smile when we got it&#160;:)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Ellison: Doch, as they are usefully able to say here &#8211; my &#8220;(!)&#8221; meant &#8220;this is an outrageous definition&#8221;, although it did make me smile when we got it&nbsp;:)</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Ellison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Ellison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 15:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I got MEXICAN early on but it didn&#039;t help much with some of the Mexicans. I, too, thought I had never heard of FRIDA (though my wife knew her name, I went on believing it couldn&#039;t be correct as I couldn&#039;t parse the clue); however, I think I may have seen some of her work when I was in a museum in Mexico City in 1969. 

I didn&#039;t find it too hard, with the help of some googling, but I thought it was a substandard Paul. The definitions to 23d TACO and 19a SURFBOARD were particularly weak. I take it, mhl, that  your use of (!) is not as in chess?

Thanks Paul and mhl  - I needed you for the explanations to 2, 5 and 17d; and 22d apparently.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got MEXICAN early on but it didn&#8217;t help much with some of the Mexicans. I, too, thought I had never heard of FRIDA (though my wife knew her name, I went on believing it couldn&#8217;t be correct as I couldn&#8217;t parse the clue); however, I think I may have seen some of her work when I was in a museum in Mexico City in 1969. </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t find it too hard, with the help of some googling, but I thought it was a substandard Paul. The definitions to 23d TACO and 19a SURFBOARD were particularly weak. I take it, mhl, that  your use of (!) is not as in chess?</p>
<p>Thanks Paul and mhl  &#8211; I needed you for the explanations to 2, 5 and 17d; and 22d apparently.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisChunders</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisChunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 12:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A colourful puzzle to brighten up the post-festive gloom and divert to mind to perhaps a land we should understand better. Very enjoyable and rewarding to dredge out of one&#039;s mind the likes of Frida Kahlo, Rivera. My partner&#039;s the fine art enthusiast in this house, and it was nice to have the chance to recall these without the intermediary of the University Challenge picture round! A good puzzle like this, rewarding in itself but also providing a spur to further research or reading; that&#039;s what we come to crosswords for, isn&#039;t it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A colourful puzzle to brighten up the post-festive gloom and divert to mind to perhaps a land we should understand better. Very enjoyable and rewarding to dredge out of one&#8217;s mind the likes of Frida Kahlo, Rivera. My partner&#8217;s the fine art enthusiast in this house, and it was nice to have the chance to recall these without the intermediary of the University Challenge picture round! A good puzzle like this, rewarding in itself but also providing a spur to further research or reading; that&#8217;s what we come to crosswords for, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: rrc</title>
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		<dc:creator>rrc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 11:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Once climbdowns went in, mexican came very quickly, and then the need to look up various mexican references on the net - not sure I was familiar with any of them    This was a crossword I really enjoyed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once climbdowns went in, mexican came very quickly, and then the need to look up various mexican references on the net &#8211; not sure I was familiar with any of them    This was a crossword I really enjoyed.</p>
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		<title>By: Bamberger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bamberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 10:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Foolishly ventured away from the FT crossword and found this anything but straightforward. Indeed I have to confess that I gave up with only 14a solved and looked forward to seeing the answers. Of course it doesn&#039;t help if you can&#039;t get the gateway clue.Can&#039;t believe I didn&#039;t spot the hidden word at 24a-I think I was just demoralised by the time I got there.

9a I didn&#039;t realise that protean meant &quot;go and anagram&quot;.
11a I didn&#039;t realise that this number was a reference to the clue number.
12a Never come across rall 
13a I would never have guessed that orange perhaps meant the answer was river 

3d, 6d &amp; 14d  I&#039;m afraid I had never heard of them.
17d Not a word I&#039;d ever come across .

Thank you for the blog -and well done to anyone who solved that unaided.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Foolishly ventured away from the FT crossword and found this anything but straightforward. Indeed I have to confess that I gave up with only 14a solved and looked forward to seeing the answers. Of course it doesn&#8217;t help if you can&#8217;t get the gateway clue.Can&#8217;t believe I didn&#8217;t spot the hidden word at 24a-I think I was just demoralised by the time I got there.</p>
<p>9a I didn&#8217;t realise that protean meant &#8220;go and anagram&#8221;.<br />
11a I didn&#8217;t realise that this number was a reference to the clue number.<br />
12a Never come across rall<br />
13a I would never have guessed that orange perhaps meant the answer was river </p>
<p>3d, 6d &amp; 14d  I&#8217;m afraid I had never heard of them.<br />
17d Not a word I&#8217;d ever come across .</p>
<p>Thank you for the blog -and well done to anyone who solved that unaided.</p>
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		<title>By: r_c_a_d</title>
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		<dc:creator>r_c_a_d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 09:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the blog. I was wondering how RO-RO was constructed from &quot;from port&quot; too: never considered RIO ... Duh. 

Enjoyable puzzle. SURFBOARD and HABANERA were my favourites.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the blog. I was wondering how RO-RO was constructed from &#8220;from port&#8221; too: never considered RIO &#8230; Duh. </p>
<p>Enjoyable puzzle. SURFBOARD and HABANERA were my favourites.</p>
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		<title>By: tupu</title>
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		<dc:creator>tupu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 08:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks mhl and Paul

An enjoyable puzzle with some need for checking to complement limited Mexican knowledge esp. re Frida Kahlo, though the charade is clear enough.

re Habanera, I took trip for dance remembering the old cliche &#039;trip the light fantastic&#039;.

Ticked 14a, 19a!, 3d,15d.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks mhl and Paul</p>
<p>An enjoyable puzzle with some need for checking to complement limited Mexican knowledge esp. re Frida Kahlo, though the charade is clear enough.</p>
<p>re Habanera, I took trip for dance remembering the old cliche &#8216;trip the light fantastic&#8217;.</p>
<p>Ticked 14a, 19a!, 3d,15d.</p>
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		<title>By: mhl</title>
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		<dc:creator>mhl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 07:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks to everyone for the corrections - I&#039;ve updated the post.  I assumed that &quot;trip&quot; must be something like a dance, but the closest definition in Chambers was: &quot;a light, short step or skip&quot; and I don&#039;t have either of the other two canonical Guardian crossword dictionaries here.

Chambers lists a verb sense of &quot;to trip&quot; meaning &quot;to dance trippingly; to trip or dance upon&quot; (the latter strangely being recursive) but then it has no verb sense of Habanera.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to everyone for the corrections &#8211; I&#8217;ve updated the post.  I assumed that &#8220;trip&#8221; must be something like a dance, but the closest definition in Chambers was: &#8220;a light, short step or skip&#8221; and I don&#8217;t have either of the other two canonical Guardian crossword dictionaries here.</p>
<p>Chambers lists a verb sense of &#8220;to trip&#8221; meaning &#8220;to dance trippingly; to trip or dance upon&#8221; (the latter strangely being recursive) but then it has no verb sense of Habanera.</p>
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