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		<title>By: Thomas99</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/01/21/independent-7878-bannsider-sat-14-jan-2012/#comment-180701</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 09:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many thanks to Bannsider and beermagnet. I had the significant advantage of actually having been to Cottbus! Very nice old youth hostel, town mainly submerged in GDR-era blocks etc. It was our staging post on a walk from Berlin to the Polish border. The puzzle was certainly demanding but very satisfying. My last in was the 3-letter 18a - I&#039;d spent ages trying to justify &quot;can&quot;, a doomed enterprise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks to Bannsider and beermagnet. I had the significant advantage of actually having been to Cottbus! Very nice old youth hostel, town mainly submerged in GDR-era blocks etc. It was our staging post on a walk from Berlin to the Polish border. The puzzle was certainly demanding but very satisfying. My last in was the 3-letter 18a &#8211; I&#8217;d spent ages trying to justify &#8220;can&#8221;, a doomed enterprise.</p>
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		<title>By: Bannsider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bannsider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 22:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes Niall I meant to say in my piece earlier that Cottbus was familiar to me only through the East German team Energie Cottbus!
Looks like Newt Gingrich&#039;s profile has risen considerably thanks to his appearance in this puzzle.
Damn!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Niall I meant to say in my piece earlier that Cottbus was familiar to me only through the East German team Energie Cottbus!<br />
Looks like Newt Gingrich&#8217;s profile has risen considerably thanks to his appearance in this puzzle.<br />
Damn!</p>
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		<title>By: nmsindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>nmsindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 19:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This was good, and, while very tough, maybe not quite as hard IMHO as some previous Bannsider Indy puzzles.   Thanks Bannsider and beermagnet for the blog.  Bannsider is I think also a Times setter but I think NEWT GINGRICH could not have appeared there as he is still very much around.   Lots of great clues - I read 3 down as 21&#039;s giving NUDE = BEHIND BARE&#039;S with the e (simple ultimately) being taken out to give BEHIND BARS.   I also realise after reading the blog and comments that I was maybe lucky to have already heard of COTTBUS (perhaps from being interested in football and its having a club that has done reasonably OK in recent times).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was good, and, while very tough, maybe not quite as hard IMHO as some previous Bannsider Indy puzzles.   Thanks Bannsider and beermagnet for the blog.  Bannsider is I think also a Times setter but I think NEWT GINGRICH could not have appeared there as he is still very much around.   Lots of great clues &#8211; I read 3 down as 21&#8242;s giving NUDE = BEHIND BARE&#8217;S with the e (simple ultimately) being taken out to give BEHIND BARS.   I also realise after reading the blog and comments that I was maybe lucky to have already heard of COTTBUS (perhaps from being interested in football and its having a club that has done reasonably OK in recent times).</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 15:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many thanks for that, Bannsider. I did wonder if there was perhaps a modern application but it was in none of my dictionaries [Chambers, Collins, {oldish} SOED] as such, and I only knew the Classical one. Googling &quot;velaria, acoustic aids&quot; simply produces this blog and two Answerbank queries about this clue! ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks for that, Bannsider. I did wonder if there was perhaps a modern application but it was in none of my dictionaries [Chambers, Collins, {oldish} SOED] as such, and I only knew the Classical one. Googling &#8220;velaria, acoustic aids&#8221; simply produces this blog and two Answerbank queries about this clue! <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bannsider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bannsider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 15:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks to beermagnet for this interesting blog (and for making me sound like the skipper of the Irish Rover :-) ) 

There wasn&#039;t a NINA in this puzzle - the Daily Telegraph occupies the right wing of the grid entirely co-incidentally and it remains to be seen if the admirably named NEWT GINGRICH will manage to belie his position in the bottom rung!

(The definition in 1ac is meant to include the &quot;on&quot; and the definition for 2 dn is &quot;targets for male seed&quot; just to be pedantic).

On VELARIA I was going by the COED definition, which has a modern usage of the VELARIUM as a low theatre ceiling used to aid acoustics.
I should also apologise to non-football fans, and maybe to football fans if it comes to that, for defining JOSE rather obscurely as &quot;special one&quot; (uncapitalised). A bit naughty that, perhaps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to beermagnet for this interesting blog (and for making me sound like the skipper of the Irish Rover <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) </p>
<p>There wasn&#8217;t a NINA in this puzzle &#8211; the Daily Telegraph occupies the right wing of the grid entirely co-incidentally and it remains to be seen if the admirably named NEWT GINGRICH will manage to belie his position in the bottom rung!</p>
<p>(The definition in 1ac is meant to include the &#8220;on&#8221; and the definition for 2 dn is &#8220;targets for male seed&#8221; just to be pedantic).</p>
<p>On VELARIA I was going by the COED definition, which has a modern usage of the VELARIUM as a low theatre ceiling used to aid acoustics.<br />
I should also apologise to non-football fans, and maybe to football fans if it comes to that, for defining JOSE rather obscurely as &#8220;special one&#8221; (uncapitalised). A bit naughty that, perhaps.</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 15:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the blog, beermagnet.

I&#039;m relieved I&#039;m not the only one to have found this difficult - and, in fact, failed to finish. [Having seen some of the solutions, I know I never would have.] Very clever stuff, as always from Bannsider.

I want to challenge the definition of 19ac: the velarium was an awning which could be drawn over the audience to protect them from the weather. It was the design of the classical theatre itself, together with the use of masks, which projected the actors&#039; voices, that aided the acoustics so successfully.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the blog, beermagnet.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m relieved I&#8217;m not the only one to have found this difficult &#8211; and, in fact, failed to finish. [Having seen some of the solutions, I know I never would have.] Very clever stuff, as always from Bannsider.</p>
<p>I want to challenge the definition of 19ac: the velarium was an awning which could be drawn over the audience to protect them from the weather. It was the design of the classical theatre itself, together with the use of masks, which projected the actors&#8217; voices, that aided the acoustics so successfully.</p>
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		<title>By: Lenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 14:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This was tough. I got all but two. I had to google the middle letter of Cottbus. I was on the right lines with the wordplay but, the trouble is, a country dweller’s place could be cot, cott or cottage. I also went for Valeria instead of Velaria, where the anagram was not much help in deciding where the vowels go.

I’m with Pandean on Jose. I know zilch about football but I do know that Jose Mourinho describes himself as ‘the Special One’.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was tough. I got all but two. I had to google the middle letter of Cottbus. I was on the right lines with the wordplay but, the trouble is, a country dweller’s place could be cot, cott or cottage. I also went for Valeria instead of Velaria, where the anagram was not much help in deciding where the vowels go.</p>
<p>I’m with Pandean on Jose. I know zilch about football but I do know that Jose Mourinho describes himself as ‘the Special One’.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeC</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 14:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks beermagnet and others. A very tricky one from Bannsider - I didn&#039;t get much further than halfway. Quite a bit to enjoy, nevertheless.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks beermagnet and others. A very tricky one from Bannsider &#8211; I didn&#8217;t get much further than halfway. Quite a bit to enjoy, nevertheless.</p>
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		<title>By: Querulous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Querulous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the blog.

Re 2d, the Fed(eration) Cup is a tennis competition for women, and -ova is a common suffix for Russian women&#039;s names (meaning &quot;daughter of&quot;, I think).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the blog.</p>
<p>Re 2d, the Fed(eration) Cup is a tennis competition for women, and -ova is a common suffix for Russian women&#8217;s names (meaning &#8220;daughter of&#8221;, I think).</p>
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		<title>By: Allan_C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan_C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 08:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, very tricky as always from Bannsider.  Thanks beermagnet and Pandean for enlightenment.

27a - I think OB here is the abbreviation for Latin &#039;obiit&#039; which gives the meaning &#039;(he/she) died&#039; rather than &#039;obituary&#039;, an appreciation of someone&#039;s life published at the time of their death.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, very tricky as always from Bannsider.  Thanks beermagnet and Pandean for enlightenment.</p>
<p>27a &#8211; I think OB here is the abbreviation for Latin &#8216;obiit&#8217; which gives the meaning &#8216;(he/she) died&#8217; rather than &#8216;obituary&#8217;, an appreciation of someone&#8217;s life published at the time of their death.</p>
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