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Independent 7929 / Dac

Posted by Bertandjoyce on March 14th, 2012


Good surface reading again from Dac. All fairly straightforward and in our opinion a good introductory puzzle for new solvers. We don’t time ourselves but this seemed to over and done with fairly quickly.


Our only quibble is the definition for 3d. At present we only have access to Chambers plus the odd on-line definition so perhaps someone can help us out if we are missing something.


1 TACITUS TACIT (understood) + US = Roman historian
5 BADDISH BAD (German spa) + DISH (food served) = fairly poor
9 BARN OWL BAR (rail) + NOW (presently) + L (lake) = bird
10 MUSICAL Anagram of CLAIM (anagrind is ‘odd’) around (‘about’) US (American) = show
11 OBSCENITY Anagram of NICE BOYS (anagrind is ‘disturbed’) around (‘about’ again!) T (initial or ‘principal’ letter of ‘this’) = cryptic definition – nice boys would be disturbed by obscenity
12 HANKS (t)HANKS (gratitude without its initial letter) = American actor, Tom
13 DEAD TREE VERSION Anagram of EDITOR EVEN READS (anagrind is ‘badly’) = printed copy, as frequently referred to on this website.
16 JEEPERS CREEPERS JEERS (unkindly remarks) around (‘about’, yet again) PE (gym) + CREEPERS (shoes) = Lordy (as an interjection)
18 EXPOS Included ‘in’ (Ess)EX POS(sibly) = shows
19 PATRONAGE PAT + RON (two fellows) + AGE (get on) = financial backing
21 OMICRON Anagram of ROOM NIC(ely) (not half) – anagrind is ‘redecorated’ = Greek character
22 BUSKING BUS (transport) + KING (supremo) = providing entertainment (‘for commuters’, not really necessary, but adds to the smooth reading)
23 PANADOL PAL (friend) around (‘swallows’) N (unspecified amount, as in algebra)  + A DO (a party) = drug
24 EXTINCT EX (old) + TIN (slang for ‘money’) +  CT (cent) = obsolete
1 TABOOED TA (soldiers – Territorial Army) + BOOED (shouted down) = prevented
2 CHRISTADELPHIAN CH (first two letters or ‘leaders’ of ‘church’) + an anagram of AND PRIEST HAIL (anagrind is ‘new’) = sect member
3 TROVE T (‘trolley to begin with’) + ROVE (meander) = store? – we can’t find a reference to ‘trove’ as a store – it seems to relate to things found rather than stored
4 SILLINESS ILL (unwell) in (‘during’) SINE (‘function’ as in trigonometry) + SS (Sunday School) = it’s foolish
5 BUMPY MP (politician) in (‘taken in by’) BUY (bribe) = rough
6 DISCHARGE DI (detective inspector) + SARGE (sergeant) around (‘belting’ as in putting a belt around) CH (child) = sack
7 INCONSIDERATION RATION (helping) after (‘supporting’ in a down clue) IN (elected) CON (Tory) SIDE (team) = unthinking
8 HOLDS ON H (hospital) + OLD + SON (boy) = keeps going
14 TREASURED TREAD (walk) round SURE (fast, as in secure) = loved
15 VERITABLE REV (‘vicar’ reversed or ‘over’) + I + TABLE (altar, an example of a table) = true
16 JOE SOAP JO(n)ES (a Welshman without ‘n’ (name) – ‘unnamed’) + OAP (old age pensioner – ‘retiree’) = dopey sort – RAF rhyming slang for ‘dope’ – someone assigned unpleasant tasks
17 SLEIGHT Anagram of THIS GEL (anagrind is ‘done’) = trick
19 PANEL Odd letters (‘regularly available’) of P(l)A(i)N (d)E(a)L(s) = board
20 ONSET ON (performing) + SET (group) = start



8 Responses to “Independent 7929 / Dac”

  1. Ian W. says:

    Thanks for the blog. I agree that the original use of ‘trove’ was something found, but it is very often (if not in fact more often) used to mean a hoard.

    COED definition is “a store of valuable or delightful things.”

    Bit of a doddle for a Wednesday, I thought.

  2. Kathryn's Dad says:

    Thank you both for the blog.

    I think Dac’s always precise clueing makes his puzzles ‘easy’ in the sense of ‘when in doubt follow the instructions’. And if you did that today you’d have an enjoyable crossword. My favourites were DEAD TREE VERSION and BADDISH, although there were several others I could have picked.

    I think TROVE works, as Ian W says – a ‘treasure trove’ in a piratical tale would be a ‘store’ of treasure, although it’s cognate with ‘trouver’ in French for ‘to find’.

  3. Allan_C says:

    Nice one, Dac; solving time 27 minutes. And thanks for the blog, B&J: I hope Gaufrid’s not working you too hard, you seem to have done rather a lot of blogs in the short time you’ve been doing them!

    I agree with Ian W and K’s D aboout ‘trove’. That usage has been around for a long time – I remember being given a book called ‘Story Trove’ rather a long time ago. Actually I think there’s a name for the process by which a phrase such as ‘Treasure Trove’ acquires a different meaning or interpreatation – from a treasure that is trove (=found) to a trove (= a store) of treasure. Can anyone enlighten me?

  4. Bertandjoyce says:

    No worries, Allan C. It’s just the way that the Saturday blogs and weekday ones have fallen recently that makes it look that way! Actually really enjoying being on the other side for a while (so to speak) although how some others manage it we don’t know! We are so glad that we are retired but maybe others can solve the puzzles quicker than us or can type faster!
    Anyway, we were ‘lurkers’ for a long time so it is good to be able to give something back!!

    Thanks to you all for the comments about ‘trove’ – we thought there must be something else as Dac is always so precise as KD says.

  5. nmsindy says:

    Excellent puzzle as always. Thanks Dac and B&J. Favourite clue BUSKING.

  6. flashling says:

    Gaufrid doesn’t push at all, he helps if we’re stuck, we have a schedule, B&J have taken my old slot and are doing an admirable job. Just couldn’t see Jeepers creepers nor Joe soap, just a bad day I guess thanks BJ and Dac. So much for easy folks in a 13a!

  7. Dormouse says:

    Yes, a fairly pleasant stroll of a puzzle, nothing kept me thinking for long, apart from 1d which looked like it ought to be “tabloid” but I couldn’t fit that answer to the clue. Did like “Dead tree version”.

  8. Rorschach says:

    “I think Dac’s always precise clueing makes his puzzles ‘easy’ in the sense of ‘when in doubt follow the instructions”

    Almost like there is method in the madness…

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