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		<title>By: Embolus</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/03/23/guardian-25591-tramp/#comment-189560</link>
		<dc:creator>Embolus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 17:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sweet puzzle, but slightly spoiled by mis-spelling of aneurysm which usually has a y not an i, unless we are talking of the Life of Bryan?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sweet puzzle, but slightly spoiled by mis-spelling of aneurysm which usually has a y not an i, unless we are talking of the Life of Bryan?</p>
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		<title>By: Huw Powell</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/03/23/guardian-25591-tramp/#comment-187889</link>
		<dc:creator>Huw Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2012 15:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...continued from 25,589 and 25,590...

&quot;An interesting week... the Everyman was just what I needed after a hard day&#039;s wall building, and Rufus was just right on Monday.  Tuesday came in nicely for my mood and worn intellectual abilities, too. Wednesday was a themed puzzled of the sort I dislike, but that’s just my opinion and taste&quot;; and Thursday was a theme-type that I really enjoyed.

Now for today&#039;s Tramp (Thank you, Tramp!  Thank you, Eileen!).

Slow going for me, in spite of many answers seeming a lot easier than I found them once solved.  Probably a &quot;wavelength&quot; thing.  

I didn&#039;t even notice the theme, despite having JONESes, CHAPMAN, and seeing &quot;Cleese&quot; in a clue - even after I settled down to chasing the anagram for 7/1!  Even after deciding it probably ended with CIRCUS!  Then I think &quot;FLYING&quot; dropped and I felt silly, betting that some buzzed through this puzzle in minutes rather than hours.  That set me up to force in PALINgs (I keep forgetting that &quot;ling&quot; means heather), and for some mild disappointment that the &quot;other Terry&quot;, Mr. Gilliam, was not represented (as far as I could tell).  And I completely forgot about poor Eric.  Reading the blog (and thanks for the lack of spoilers early on, forcing me to keep hunting!) made me sit here for another 20 minutes until I found both of them.

I was much embarrassed to have to resort to ?c?a?t?y?t?s at OneLook for 26a - despite &quot;McCarthy&quot; being one of the first words in my head after deciding &quot;they wanted reds out&quot; was the definition early on.  I think by the time I was trying to solve the anagram I had forgotten that, and the odd letter juxtapositions it creates.

What a week indeed.  I completely forgive my &quot;distaste&quot; for Wednesday&#039;s theme given the perfect jewels surrounding it; after all, I am sure it gave some solvers just as great a pleasure as these others did for me.

Sometimes I think we should also thank Hugh Stephenson for his behind-the-scenes efforts in bringing us such a well-assembled series of puzzles.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;continued from 25,589 and 25,590&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;An interesting week&#8230; the Everyman was just what I needed after a hard day&#8217;s wall building, and Rufus was just right on Monday.  Tuesday came in nicely for my mood and worn intellectual abilities, too. Wednesday was a themed puzzled of the sort I dislike, but that’s just my opinion and taste&#8221;; and Thursday was a theme-type that I really enjoyed.</p>
<p>Now for today&#8217;s Tramp (Thank you, Tramp!  Thank you, Eileen!).</p>
<p>Slow going for me, in spite of many answers seeming a lot easier than I found them once solved.  Probably a &#8220;wavelength&#8221; thing.  </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t even notice the theme, despite having JONESes, CHAPMAN, and seeing &#8220;Cleese&#8221; in a clue &#8211; even after I settled down to chasing the anagram for 7/1!  Even after deciding it probably ended with CIRCUS!  Then I think &#8220;FLYING&#8221; dropped and I felt silly, betting that some buzzed through this puzzle in minutes rather than hours.  That set me up to force in PALINgs (I keep forgetting that &#8220;ling&#8221; means heather), and for some mild disappointment that the &#8220;other Terry&#8221;, Mr. Gilliam, was not represented (as far as I could tell).  And I completely forgot about poor Eric.  Reading the blog (and thanks for the lack of spoilers early on, forcing me to keep hunting!) made me sit here for another 20 minutes until I found both of them.</p>
<p>I was much embarrassed to have to resort to ?c?a?t?y?t?s at OneLook for 26a &#8211; despite &#8220;McCarthy&#8221; being one of the first words in my head after deciding &#8220;they wanted reds out&#8221; was the definition early on.  I think by the time I was trying to solve the anagram I had forgotten that, and the odd letter juxtapositions it creates.</p>
<p>What a week indeed.  I completely forgive my &#8220;distaste&#8221; for Wednesday&#8217;s theme given the perfect jewels surrounding it; after all, I am sure it gave some solvers just as great a pleasure as these others did for me.</p>
<p>Sometimes I think we should also thank Hugh Stephenson for his behind-the-scenes efforts in bringing us such a well-assembled series of puzzles.</p>
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		<title>By: nametab</title>
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		<dc:creator>nametab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2012 09:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NeilW @41: Woke up this morning and found IDLE, but GILLIAM still eluded.  Many thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NeilW @41: Woke up this morning and found IDLE, but GILLIAM still eluded.  Many thanks</p>
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		<title>By: NeilW</title>
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		<dc:creator>NeilW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2012 02:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[nametab, IDLE: start with the first I in 10ac and then travel South East; GILLIAM: start with the G in 22dn and go North.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nametab, IDLE: start with the first I in 10ac and then travel South East; GILLIAM: start with the G in 22dn and go North.</p>
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		<title>By: nametab</title>
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		<dc:creator>nametab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 22:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I started this late, and it&#039;s even later now. Where are Idle and Gilliam please?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started this late, and it&#8217;s even later now. Where are Idle and Gilliam please?</p>
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		<title>By: nic@60</title>
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		<dc:creator>nic@60</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 20:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re 9ac, a John Chapman was the Pedlar of Swaffham, a legend in which he walks to London to find his fortune and in the end discovers it in his own back garden.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re 9ac, a John Chapman was the Pedlar of Swaffham, a legend in which he walks to London to find his fortune and in the end discovers it in his own back garden.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Ellison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Ellison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 20:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Am I the only one for whom 7d 1a did not leap out, given the enumeration or not? I had done all but these and some of the top left, when I decided to pack in. On opening Eileen&#039;s blog the first thing I saw was CHAPMAN highlighted, and the answer to 7d 1a came immediately then - doh!

Thanks Eileen and Tramp; I must remember next time you have partially occluded themes.

For what it is worth, first in was ANEURISMS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the only one for whom 7d 1a did not leap out, given the enumeration or not? I had done all but these and some of the top left, when I decided to pack in. On opening Eileen&#8217;s blog the first thing I saw was CHAPMAN highlighted, and the answer to 7d 1a came immediately then &#8211; doh!</p>
<p>Thanks Eileen and Tramp; I must remember next time you have partially occluded themes.</p>
<p>For what it is worth, first in was ANEURISMS.</p>
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		<title>By: Gervase</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gervase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 18:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marian H: No offence taken!  Welcome to fifteensquared.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marian H: No offence taken!  Welcome to fifteensquared.</p>
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		<title>By: Marian H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marian H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 17:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apologies to Gervase @ 26; I too overlooked your reference.  I don&#039;t want to cause offence with my first posting - I&#039;ll wait until you know me better ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies to Gervase @ 26; I too overlooked your reference.  I don&#8217;t want to cause offence with my first posting &#8211; I&#8217;ll wait until you know me better <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tramp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tramp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 17:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi again

I can&#039;t remember the clue but it was broken down as EASY around (SE+MP+L). It wasn&#039;t a great clue.

In the end I think Hugh was right. It&#039;s true that a lot of solvers posting here would tolerate ESEMPLASY and a lot of those solvers would spot the theme. However, that subset of solvers is a biased sample from the solving population. There are many people who struggle with daily cryptics and you can&#039;t alienate those completely. Who am I to judge what the Guardian-solving public as a whole 
would tolerate? My only slight gripe is that it could have been used for a Prize puzzle or I could have put a little preamble saying &quot;change an unknown letter and the group is complete&quot; or something. 

I remember looking at this puzzle at Christmas time and thinking there were too many difficult words and too many easy clues. I&#039;m glad it seems, on the whole, to have gone down well. I do have a some better ones to come.

Neil]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi again</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t remember the clue but it was broken down as EASY around (SE+MP+L). It wasn&#8217;t a great clue.</p>
<p>In the end I think Hugh was right. It&#8217;s true that a lot of solvers posting here would tolerate ESEMPLASY and a lot of those solvers would spot the theme. However, that subset of solvers is a biased sample from the solving population. There are many people who struggle with daily cryptics and you can&#8217;t alienate those completely. Who am I to judge what the Guardian-solving public as a whole<br />
would tolerate? My only slight gripe is that it could have been used for a Prize puzzle or I could have put a little preamble saying &#8220;change an unknown letter and the group is complete&#8221; or something. </p>
<p>I remember looking at this puzzle at Christmas time and thinking there were too many difficult words and too many easy clues. I&#8217;m glad it seems, on the whole, to have gone down well. I do have a some better ones to come.</p>
<p>Neil</p>
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