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	<title>Comments on: Independent 7,961 / Phi</title>
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		<title>By: Graham Pellen</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/04/20/independent-7961-phi/#comment-192982</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Pellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 05:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1D is abandoning the &quot;an&quot; in TALISM[an], not just the &quot;a&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1D is abandoning the &#8220;an&#8221; in TALISM[an], not just the &#8220;a&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2012 13:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a little late to the party, but on recycling day I note that there is a small Nina here after all. The word MIDDLE is in the unchecked squares across, appropriately the middle of the grid.

Perhaps a knowing reference to 6ac?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a little late to the party, but on recycling day I note that there is a small Nina here after all. The word MIDDLE is in the unchecked squares across, appropriately the middle of the grid.</p>
<p>Perhaps a knowing reference to 6ac?</p>
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		<title>By: Phi</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/04/20/independent-7961-phi/#comment-190535</link>
		<dc:creator>Phi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2012 20:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, clues like GASH won&#039;t come along too often, but the chance to drop the definition into the &lt;i&gt;middle&lt;/i&gt; of the clue was too much to resist.  The other key issue is whether to give you &#039;gale&#039; and &#039;hale&#039; &lt;i&gt;en clair&lt;/i&gt; or to define one (as I did here - defining both is certainly a step too far).  I have a vague feeling I might have had GASH in another puzzle recently and so was on the lookout for a different treatment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, clues like GASH won&#8217;t come along too often, but the chance to drop the definition into the <i>middle</i> of the clue was too much to resist.  The other key issue is whether to give you &#8216;gale&#8217; and &#8216;hale&#8217; <i>en clair</i> or to define one (as I did here &#8211; defining both is certainly a step too far).  I have a vague feeling I might have had GASH in another puzzle recently and so was on the lookout for a different treatment.</p>
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		<title>By: Dormouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dormouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 22:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I, too, was fooled by the top left corner.  Filled it in quickly and then had to do something else.  When I returned, nothing else was easy.  GASH I couldn&#039;t see, and also, oddly, EDGEHILL, which is hardly obscure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, too, was fooled by the top left corner.  Filled it in quickly and then had to do something else.  When I returned, nothing else was easy.  GASH I couldn&#8217;t see, and also, oddly, EDGEHILL, which is hardly obscure.</p>
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		<title>By: Bertandjoyce</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/04/20/independent-7961-phi/#comment-190452</link>
		<dc:creator>Bertandjoyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 22:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Phew! Started this rather late and we were hoping for an early night but no such luck. Thanks for the parsing of 6a - definitely a step too far, especially at this time of night.
We felt that a number of clues were just a bit too convoluted but in the end a reasonable challenge. We were also spooked by the coincidence of 7d as referred to by K&#039;sD.
Thanks RR and Phi.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phew! Started this rather late and we were hoping for an early night but no such luck. Thanks for the parsing of 6a &#8211; definitely a step too far, especially at this time of night.<br />
We felt that a number of clues were just a bit too convoluted but in the end a reasonable challenge. We were also spooked by the coincidence of 7d as referred to by K&#8217;sD.<br />
Thanks RR and Phi.</p>
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		<title>By: RatkojaRiku</title>
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		<dc:creator>RatkojaRiku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 17:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks to Thomas99 et al for the explanation of 6 - I would never have got there on my own! The blog will be amended accordingly.

Thanks to nmsindy for the point on &quot;ll&quot; in 7]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Thomas99 et al for the explanation of 6 &#8211; I would never have got there on my own! The blog will be amended accordingly.</p>
<p>Thanks to nmsindy for the point on &#8220;ll&#8221; in 7</p>
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		<title>By: nmsindy</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/04/20/independent-7961-phi/#comment-190395</link>
		<dc:creator>nmsindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 14:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the blog, RR, and Phi for the puzzle.   Yes, it took me quite a while to see GASH - a very tricky clue type which, as others have mentioned, Azed uses once in a while, though I&#039;ve seen it in daily cryptics too.   Thanks for explaining DARLING - I got it from the v friendly wordplay but did not get beyond that.   In 7D, I don&#039;t think you need the X2; ll (ie two lower case Ls) is an abbrev for lines (of verse).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the blog, RR, and Phi for the puzzle.   Yes, it took me quite a while to see GASH &#8211; a very tricky clue type which, as others have mentioned, Azed uses once in a while, though I&#8217;ve seen it in daily cryptics too.   Thanks for explaining DARLING &#8211; I got it from the v friendly wordplay but did not get beyond that.   In 7D, I don&#8217;t think you need the X2; ll (ie two lower case Ls) is an abbrev for lines (of verse).</p>
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		<title>By: MikeC</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks RR and Phi, also Thomas. I&#039;m with K&#039;s D re GASH - a bit of a stinker (which of course eluded me!).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks RR and Phi, also Thomas. I&#8217;m with K&#8217;s D re GASH &#8211; a bit of a stinker (which of course eluded me!).</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn's Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn's Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 10:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Appreciate you explaining GASH, Thomas.  That is possibly a clue for Phi to leave to one of his more difficult offerings elsewhere, I fancy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Appreciate you explaining GASH, Thomas.  That is possibly a clue for Phi to leave to one of his more difficult offerings elsewhere, I fancy.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn's Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn's Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 09:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I too found the SE the hardest to crack: PEEP-TOE is a new one for me, and I took ages to see TABBY.  TARN was well-clued for a short word.

The difficulty level made me look for a theme or nina, but I can&#039;t see anything.  But for those that have done the puzzle in Another Place today, there is a scary coincidence.

Thanks to setter and blogger.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too found the SE the hardest to crack: PEEP-TOE is a new one for me, and I took ages to see TABBY.  TARN was well-clued for a short word.</p>
<p>The difficulty level made me look for a theme or nina, but I can&#8217;t see anything.  But for those that have done the puzzle in Another Place today, there is a scary coincidence.</p>
<p>Thanks to setter and blogger.</p>
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