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		<title>By: RatkojaRiku</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/05/18/independent-7985-phi/#comment-194445</link>
		<dc:creator>RatkojaRiku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 20:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks to duncanshiell for spotting the error in 15D, which I have put right, if only for posterity&#039;s sake.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to duncanshiell for spotting the error in 15D, which I have put right, if only for posterity&#8217;s sake.</p>
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		<title>By: Allan_C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan_C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 08:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another late start and had to sleep on it, but got there in the end.  A bit more challenging than some of Phi&#039;s offerings.

But I got ENIGMA and FIDO straightaway and wondered if we were in for a themed crossword on WWII and/or acronyms.  Nothing else in that line, though, with the possible exception of ERSATZ.

Held up for a while on 21a having put &#039;rebelled&#039; for 16d, though I couldn&#039;t see how &#039;bell&#039; could equal &#039;target&#039;; then I checked &#039;target&#039; in a thesaurus to find &#039;butt&#039; and all was made clear.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another late start and had to sleep on it, but got there in the end.  A bit more challenging than some of Phi&#8217;s offerings.</p>
<p>But I got ENIGMA and FIDO straightaway and wondered if we were in for a themed crossword on WWII and/or acronyms.  Nothing else in that line, though, with the possible exception of ERSATZ.</p>
<p>Held up for a while on 21a having put &#8216;rebelled&#8217; for 16d, though I couldn&#8217;t see how &#8216;bell&#8217; could equal &#8216;target&#8217;; then I checked &#8216;target&#8217; in a thesaurus to find &#8216;butt&#8217; and all was made clear.</p>
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		<title>By: Bertandjoyce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bertandjoyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 07:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Phew!
Amother late start and we were both nodding off before we had finished it. Quite a few unusual words but all fair - mad for oddball was OK - but we needed lots of crossing letters before we could start to work out many of the answers.
Had to do a search for 25ac and groaned when we parsed it but actually a really good clue. Last one in was 20d when we had all the checking letters.
Thanks Phi and RR!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phew!<br />
Amother late start and we were both nodding off before we had finished it. Quite a few unusual words but all fair &#8211; mad for oddball was OK &#8211; but we needed lots of crossing letters before we could start to work out many of the answers.<br />
Had to do a search for 25ac and groaned when we parsed it but actually a really good clue. Last one in was 20d when we had all the checking letters.<br />
Thanks Phi and RR!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 20:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s where airfields go woof.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s where airfields go woof.</p>
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		<title>By: Dormouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dormouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 17:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Me too for the top left corner.  Took me ages to get 3d which at least suggested 7ac ended PIG, but I had to do a word search to get it, and even then I couldn&#039;t see why.  But that gave me enough to get 2d, and then the rest fell into place.  I did vaguely know FIDO from somewhere, which helped.

Also had trouble with 20d, spending ages assuming it ended -ite or -ity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me too for the top left corner.  Took me ages to get 3d which at least suggested 7ac ended PIG, but I had to do a word search to get it, and even then I couldn&#8217;t see why.  But that gave me enough to get 2d, and then the rest fell into place.  I did vaguely know FIDO from somewhere, which helped.</p>
<p>Also had trouble with 20d, spending ages assuming it ended -ite or -ity.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeC</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 16:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry NealH and K&#039;s D, we crossed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry NealH and K&#8217;s D, we crossed.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeC</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 16:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks RR and Phi. I also found this a bit trickier than usual - and I&#039;m with you, nmsindy, re 2d. My first thought was that &quot;boiling&quot; was the anagrind, and it took quite a while to see it the right way round! A good workout.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks RR and Phi. I also found this a bit trickier than usual &#8211; and I&#8217;m with you, nmsindy, re 2d. My first thought was that &#8220;boiling&#8221; was the anagrind, and it took quite a while to see it the right way round! A good workout.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn's Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn's Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 16:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Goodness, this was hard, and I really struggled to complete it.  It&#039;s all pretty fair, although some unusual words and devious clueing.  I too liked BATTEN, and got confused too with the boiling/fluid mix in 2dn.

Thanks to both.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goodness, this was hard, and I really struggled to complete it.  It&#8217;s all pretty fair, although some unusual words and devious clueing.  I too liked BATTEN, and got confused too with the boiling/fluid mix in 2dn.</p>
<p>Thanks to both.</p>
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		<title>By: NealH</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 15:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was really struggling with the NW corner until I realized that it could be boiling rather than fluid that was the anagram - a brilliant clue.  I did initially write hedgehog for 7, but realized that made no sense and change it to hedgepig, although I was dubious about high for grave.  I also struggled with animadversion: it&#039;s a rather strange, clumsy word that you don&#039;t hear used anywhere.  I worked out the ani...version bit, but it was a struggle to get mad for oddball - the two words don&#039;t really have the same meaning for me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was really struggling with the NW corner until I realized that it could be boiling rather than fluid that was the anagram &#8211; a brilliant clue.  I did initially write hedgehog for 7, but realized that made no sense and change it to hedgepig, although I was dubious about high for grave.  I also struggled with animadversion: it&#8217;s a rather strange, clumsy word that you don&#8217;t hear used anywhere.  I worked out the ani&#8230;version bit, but it was a struggle to get mad for oddball &#8211; the two words don&#8217;t really have the same meaning for me.</p>
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		<title>By: nmsindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>nmsindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 12:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks RatkojaRiku and Phi.   Yes, I found this a bit trickier than usual from Phi with the hardest bits the NW and SE corners.

&quot;Boiling fluid&quot; in 2D deceived me for ages before the anagram possibility occurred - this helped me to finish the puzzle with HEDGEPIG (new word for me) being my last answer.   Favourite clue BATTEN.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks RatkojaRiku and Phi.   Yes, I found this a bit trickier than usual from Phi with the hardest bits the NW and SE corners.</p>
<p>&#8220;Boiling fluid&#8221; in 2D deceived me for ages before the anagram possibility occurred &#8211; this helped me to finish the puzzle with HEDGEPIG (new word for me) being my last answer.   Favourite clue BATTEN.</p>
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