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		<title>By: John Owen</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/05/22/which-daily-cryptic-is-the-hardest/#comment-195421</link>
		<dc:creator>John Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2012 16:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d be grateful get a copy of the spreadsheet. I think I&#039;m in for a dose of humble pie.

Thank you 

owen@camosun.bc.ca]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be grateful get a copy of the spreadsheet. I think I&#8217;m in for a dose of humble pie.</p>
<p>Thank you </p>
<p><a href="mailto:owen@camosun.bc.ca">owen@camosun.bc.ca</a></p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Traill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Traill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 21:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I too would much appreciate having your spreadsheet, sent to &lt;em&gt;&lt;Christian Name&gt;&lt;/em&gt; dot &lt;i&gt;&lt;Surname&gt;&lt;/i&gt; at t dash online dot de. Thanks in advance, and congratulations on your effort.
(Incidentally, since I have to supply an address to post, would it not have been possible to use that — or just post the file for downloading – can this site not do that?)

I too would have been interested to hear more about the spread in difficulty (or at least in times); I look forward to the data (if not too late!).
I too feel that I vary a great deal in speed, depending on things like how well I slept; perhaps you could have got (or did get) a little more information by doing them in batches (noting the order!), though quite how one would interpret the results I’m not sure. The curious thing (which is clearer with Sudoku-like puzzles) is that I don’t feel as if I am thinking more slowly, it just takes longer on the watch, as though subjective time slows in proportion.

I find myself all too readily/lazily distracted by Sudoku and Kakuro or a quick crossword, even though I find cryptic crosswords more satisfying than those.
When I try one it is the Grauniad (on paper), but I seldom complete it; I know there is a setter who often seems easy to me, though I didn’t think it was Rufus; Araucaria is usually fun, and not always (all) hard.
I don’t mind quite fairly freestyle cluing, but I do like prepositions to be consistent with the direction of the clue.

Is it simply your style to refer to yourself sporadically in the third person, or is there some other significance?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too would much appreciate having your spreadsheet, sent to <em>&lt;Christian Name&gt;</em> dot <i>&lt;Surname&gt;</i> at t dash online dot de. Thanks in advance, and congratulations on your effort.<br />
(Incidentally, since I have to supply an address to post, would it not have been possible to use that — or just post the file for downloading – can this site not do that?)</p>
<p>I too would have been interested to hear more about the spread in difficulty (or at least in times); I look forward to the data (if not too late!).<br />
I too feel that I vary a great deal in speed, depending on things like how well I slept; perhaps you could have got (or did get) a little more information by doing them in batches (noting the order!), though quite how one would interpret the results I’m not sure. The curious thing (which is clearer with Sudoku-like puzzles) is that I don’t feel as if I am thinking more slowly, it just takes longer on the watch, as though subjective time slows in proportion.</p>
<p>I find myself all too readily/lazily distracted by Sudoku and Kakuro or a quick crossword, even though I find cryptic crosswords more satisfying than those.<br />
When I try one it is the Grauniad (on paper), but I seldom complete it; I know there is a setter who often seems easy to me, though I didn’t think it was Rufus; Araucaria is usually fun, and not always (all) hard.<br />
I don’t mind quite fairly freestyle cluing, but I do like prepositions to be consistent with the direction of the clue.</p>
<p>Is it simply your style to refer to yourself sporadically in the third person, or is there some other significance?</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 20:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is very interesting - if not too late, could you send me a copy too? orbin at tiscali dot co dot uk
Regards, Robin]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is very interesting &#8211; if not too late, could you send me a copy too? orbin at tiscali dot co dot uk<br />
Regards, Robin</p>
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		<title>By: jetdoc</title>
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		<dc:creator>jetdoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 09:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Coming to this a bit late, but please send me the spreadsheet:
jane dot teather at jetdoc dot co dot uk

Excellent work, nmsindy!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coming to this a bit late, but please send me the spreadsheet:<br />
jane dot teather at jetdoc dot co dot uk</p>
<p>Excellent work, nmsindy!</p>
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		<title>By: DROPO</title>
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		<dc:creator>DROPO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 18:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I too keep statistics on the difficulty of the FT and Guardian puzzles.  I only complete about 1/5 of the Guardians and 2/5 of the FT puzzles.  The &quot;easiest&quot; Guardian setters, of those that appear often, are for me Rufus and Orlando.  The easiest FT setters are Gurney and Dogberry.  I find Bonxie the hardest in the Guardian and Bradman the hardest in the FT.  Everyman, I get almost 100%, and Rufus in the Globe and Mail about 4/5 of the time (as opposed to 2/5 of the time in the Guardian, and 3/5 of the time [as Dante] in the FT).  I&#039;ve been doing these puzzles a long time, but I am both an American and an idiot, so I don&#039;t often get far on them :)

I don&#039;t seem to be able to get the Independent crossword - wrong version of Java, or something that I can&#039;t get around :(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too keep statistics on the difficulty of the FT and Guardian puzzles.  I only complete about 1/5 of the Guardians and 2/5 of the FT puzzles.  The &#8220;easiest&#8221; Guardian setters, of those that appear often, are for me Rufus and Orlando.  The easiest FT setters are Gurney and Dogberry.  I find Bonxie the hardest in the Guardian and Bradman the hardest in the FT.  Everyman, I get almost 100%, and Rufus in the Globe and Mail about 4/5 of the time (as opposed to 2/5 of the time in the Guardian, and 3/5 of the time [as Dante] in the FT).  I&#8217;ve been doing these puzzles a long time, but I am both an American and an idiot, so I don&#8217;t often get far on them <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t seem to be able to get the Independent crossword &#8211; wrong version of Java, or something that I can&#8217;t get around <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mhl</title>
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		<dc:creator>mhl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 14:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What an excellent project!  Thanks for doing this, nmsindy.  I would love to have a copy of the spreadsheet too, if you could email one to mark-[ the name of this site ]@longair.net

Something else I&#039;m interested in is how &quot;bursty&quot; different people&#039;s crossword solving is - I often get stuck for a couple of minutes, but then after getting one clue, another three or four follow quickly.  Other friends of mine very steadily put in a clue every 30 seconds or so.  All the newspapers with interactive crossword sites could collect this interesting data, but I&#039;ve no idea if they actually do (or how one could get to analyse it)...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an excellent project!  Thanks for doing this, nmsindy.  I would love to have a copy of the spreadsheet too, if you could email one to mark-[ the name of this site ]@longair.net</p>
<p>Something else I&#8217;m interested in is how &#8220;bursty&#8221; different people&#8217;s crossword solving is &#8211; I often get stuck for a couple of minutes, but then after getting one clue, another three or four follow quickly.  Other friends of mine very steadily put in a clue every 30 seconds or so.  All the newspapers with interactive crossword sites could collect this interesting data, but I&#8217;ve no idea if they actually do (or how one could get to analyse it)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Shuchi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shuchi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 02:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fascinating study, thanks for taking this on NMS. I haven&#039;t timed myself but of the puzzles I solve, my understanding of their relative difficulty agrees with these results: it is pretty clearly Indy &gt; Guardian &gt; Times &gt; FT for me. I think unfamiliarity with some of the themes in Indy/Guardian contributes to it.

I&#039;d love to see the spreadsheet. My id is shuchi [at] crosswordunclued.com.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating study, thanks for taking this on NMS. I haven&#8217;t timed myself but of the puzzles I solve, my understanding of their relative difficulty agrees with these results: it is pretty clearly Indy &gt; Guardian &gt; Times &gt; FT for me. I think unfamiliarity with some of the themes in Indy/Guardian contributes to it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to see the spreadsheet. My id is shuchi [at] crosswordunclued.com.</p>
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		<title>By: Meic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 13:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just seen this, and I too would like a copy of the spreadsheet

meicgoodyear at hotmail.com

I have a daily train journey of 1 hour 10 minutes, which is enough to cope with the i, Guardian, FT and Times on most days as well as to read as much of the i as I can face. I only see the Telegraph if someone orphans a copy on the train, but would agree the Toughie is abot the same as Guardian and i.

I&#039;d agree the FT is generally easiest (median solve &lt;8 minutes), and the Guardian and i/Indy a little harder (though I find Don Manley&#039;s Guardian puzzles harder than his others). Median solve for these 11-12 minutes. Overall times are censored (in the statistical meaning of the term) as unless a puzzle is really super (most of the late Bunthorne&#039;s for example) I only give any puzzle about 20 minutes max, and there are usually about 2 a week I cannot do in that time - this week GAFF in the FT, sometimes the Times Saturday, sometimes Boatman. I started with Everyman, but rarely bother now, having been spoilt by AZED and the Mephisto now being available online.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just seen this, and I too would like a copy of the spreadsheet</p>
<p>meicgoodyear at hotmail.com</p>
<p>I have a daily train journey of 1 hour 10 minutes, which is enough to cope with the i, Guardian, FT and Times on most days as well as to read as much of the i as I can face. I only see the Telegraph if someone orphans a copy on the train, but would agree the Toughie is abot the same as Guardian and i.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d agree the FT is generally easiest (median solve &lt;8 minutes), and the Guardian and i/Indy a little harder (though I find Don Manley&#039;s Guardian puzzles harder than his others). Median solve for these 11-12 minutes. Overall times are censored (in the statistical meaning of the term) as unless a puzzle is really super (most of the late Bunthorne&#039;s for example) I only give any puzzle about 20 minutes max, and there are usually about 2 a week I cannot do in that time &#8211; this week GAFF in the FT, sometimes the Times Saturday, sometimes Boatman. I started with Everyman, but rarely bother now, having been spoilt by AZED and the Mephisto now being available online.</p>
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		<title>By: tallboss</title>
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		<dc:creator>tallboss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 12:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please could you send me the spreadsheet

G.robertson295@btinternet.com

Thank you]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please could you send me the spreadsheet</p>
<p><a href="mailto:G.robertson295@btinternet.com">G.robertson295@btinternet.com</a></p>
<p>Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: Bannsider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bannsider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 11:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great stuff Niall. 

Both a labour of love and a useful guide for all those editors I&#039;d have thought.

Plainly my puzzles are not tough enough though ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great stuff Niall. </p>
<p>Both a labour of love and a useful guide for all those editors I&#8217;d have thought.</p>
<p>Plainly my puzzles are not tough enough though &#8230;</p>
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