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	<title>Comments on: Guardian 25,659 / Rufus</title>
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		<title>By: rompad</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/06/11/guardian-25659-rufus/#comment-196317</link>
		<dc:creator>rompad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 10:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eileen,
your analysis missed an error in this Rufus.
15 - the tense is incorrect and the clue should have read &quot;...&lt;i&gt;was&lt;/i&gt; avoidable&quot;.

There are also instances of extraneous words eg.
5A - &quot;in the&quot;
12 - &quot;of&quot;
8 - &quot;of&quot;
These words are not used in the parsing of the clues, and are included just to make the whole clue read better.  This is sloppy setting and needs to be indicated as so in your post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eileen,<br />
your analysis missed an error in this Rufus.<br />
15 &#8211; the tense is incorrect and the clue should have read &#8220;&#8230;<i>was</i> avoidable&#8221;.</p>
<p>There are also instances of extraneous words eg.<br />
5A &#8211; &#8220;in the&#8221;<br />
12 &#8211; &#8220;of&#8221;<br />
8 &#8211; &#8220;of&#8221;<br />
These words are not used in the parsing of the clues, and are included just to make the whole clue read better.  This is sloppy setting and needs to be indicated as so in your post.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas99</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 10:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rather late to comment but I thought both this and the Dante (prize) crossword in the FT were very good examples of Rufus - wonderful smooth surfaces elegantly linked to the wordplay, with the additional lateral challenge/entertainment of the CDs - which this time didn&#039;t flummox me for &lt;i&gt;too&lt;/i&gt; long...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather late to comment but I thought both this and the Dante (prize) crossword in the FT were very good examples of Rufus &#8211; wonderful smooth surfaces elegantly linked to the wordplay, with the additional lateral challenge/entertainment of the CDs &#8211; which this time didn&#8217;t flummox me for <i>too</i> long&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Quite right, dinsdale - and this is cryptic crosswordland. ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite right, dinsdale &#8211; and this is cryptic crosswordland. <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: dinsdale</title>
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		<dc:creator>dinsdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 07:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The utensil which whisks is a whisk (not a whisker)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The utensil which whisks is a whisk (not a whisker)</p>
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		<title>By: RCWhiting</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/06/11/guardian-25659-rufus/#comment-195711</link>
		<dc:creator>RCWhiting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 23:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks all (especially the excellent sub.)
Surfaces so smooth the whole thing slid of the table almost before I could write in the solutions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks all (especially the excellent sub.)<br />
Surfaces so smooth the whole thing slid of the table almost before I could write in the solutions.</p>
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		<title>By: Allan_C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan_C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[EGG BEATERS was the obvious answer to 12a but puzzled me till I saw the blog and realised it was a cryptic definition of things that whisk.  I was thinking that it was a colloquial name for some elaborate style of facial hair (on the lines of &quot;handlebar moustache&quot;).

And with EGG BEATERS and TIN OPENERS symmetically placed I wondered if a theme of kitchen tools was going to emerge, but obviously that was just coincidence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EGG BEATERS was the obvious answer to 12a but puzzled me till I saw the blog and realised it was a cryptic definition of things that whisk.  I was thinking that it was a colloquial name for some elaborate style of facial hair (on the lines of &#8220;handlebar moustache&#8221;).</p>
<p>And with EGG BEATERS and TIN OPENERS symmetically placed I wondered if a theme of kitchen tools was going to emerge, but obviously that was just coincidence.</p>
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		<title>By: Wolfie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wolfie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Davy - we crossed!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Davy &#8211; we crossed!</p>
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		<title>By: Wolfie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wolfie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nic@60 - I think that in American English the timber that is referred to in Britain as PINE is called DEAL.

Nice crossword today from Rufus. I particularly liked EGG BEATERS.

Thanks Eileen for the blog.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nic@60 &#8211; I think that in American English the timber that is referred to in Britain as PINE is called DEAL.</p>
<p>Nice crossword today from Rufus. I particularly liked EGG BEATERS.</p>
<p>Thanks Eileen for the blog.</p>
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		<title>By: nic@60</title>
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		<dc:creator>nic@60</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Davy.  A new one for me which I will try to remember for future reference.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Davy.  A new one for me which I will try to remember for future reference.</p>
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		<title>By: Davy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re nic@60

Deal = &quot;pine wood&quot; and is frequently used in crosswords.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re nic@60</p>
<p>Deal = &#8220;pine wood&#8221; and is frequently used in crosswords.</p>
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