Comments on: Everyman 3427/10 June 2012

By: Paul B

Paul B — Mon, 18 Jun 2012 01:50:20 +0000

Sorry to be pedantic … okay, so no I’m not, but it’s WE who (geddit) ‘won’t get fooled again’. That’s the title: the lyric, however, is ‘we don’t get fooled again’ throughout the song.

I had a bit of trouble with the WAGONS-LITS too, but thought there were some lovely clues in this puzzle.

By: Pierre

Pierre — Sun, 17 Jun 2012 17:35:34 +0000

Thank you, Donna, for your comment. If this is the first time you’ve commented on the Everyman blog, then welcome! Seems like WAGONS-LITS was a bit of a stretch for some people.

By: Donna

Donna — Sun, 17 Jun 2012 16:45:49 +0000

Thank you, Everyman and Pierre. This puzzle gave me more of a tussle than the previous few, but I finally finished it except for “WAGONS-LITS.” All week I kept on looking at it and thinking that something would finally click, but it never did! Well, I’ve learned a new word! I did get 10 Across based on “under discussion,” but I thought it was a double definition with “a series” meaning a British TV series which I’d just never heard of by the name of “At Issue.” I wasn’t at all familiar with the meaning of “tissue” as “series.” Something else new! Wishing you all a great week ahead!

By: Robi

Robi — Sun, 17 Jun 2012 10:23:45 +0000

Thanks Everyman and Pierre.

Nice anagram for HORATION NELSON. I thought WAGONS-LITS was sufficiently well-known not to cause too much of a problem. I had to think twice for the TISSUE=series in 10a.

I particularly liked HEALTH SPA.

By: Pierre

Pierre — Sun, 17 Jun 2012 08:27:52 +0000

Morning Bamberger. I didn’t give ‘name’ and ‘word’ a second thought when I solved 11ac, but the first definition for NAME in my SOED is ‘A word or combination of words constituting the individual designation by which a person, animal, place or thing is known’.

I agree that NEVIL SHUTE is tricky to get if you haven’t heard of the author. He died in 1960, so he’s not exactly contemporary, but his novels were popular. The way I got it was to deduce that N and E would be the first and last letters, then with a couple of crossers, I could see it because I was aware of him, although I’ve never read any of his works.

By: Davy

Davy — Sun, 17 Jun 2012 08:12:50 +0000

Thanks Pierre,

Well, once again I’ve been caught out by WAGONS LITS. I agree it’s not an inspired clue but if you don’t
know the term or can’t remember it, then it becomes difficult to solve especially with most of the consonants
missing ie _A_O_S _I_S. I came up with ‘famous airs’ but that would only fit the first part of the clue. I
suppose the answer is obvious to seasoned travellers and as the song goes ‘I won’t get fooled again’. Although
I said that about number=anaesthetic but it still occasionally gets me.

I particularly liked SLIP-UP, COUNTERPART, NEVIL SHUTE and ASTERN. Thanks Everyman.

By: Bamberger

Bamberger — Sun, 17 Jun 2012 07:18:33 +0000

Re 3a “blessed” seems to be a favourite of Everyman as an anagram indicator.
11a I don’t see why name =word-I’d be grateful for elaboration.
25a I guessed this and had s=small and number=even but didn’t think number =even was very good. When does a number stop being small?

Failed on 13d -I think that is hard.

Much better than the previous two weeks.