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		<title>By: Rorschach</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/06/22/independent-8015-phi/#comment-196549</link>
		<dc:creator>Rorschach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 18:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wonder if you could clue PIRANDELLO as &quot;Four Characters in Search of an Author&quot;?

PI + R AND ELL + O

Tenuous at best?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonder if you could clue PIRANDELLO as &#8220;Four Characters in Search of an Author&#8221;?</p>
<p>PI + R AND ELL + O</p>
<p>Tenuous at best?</p>
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		<title>By: Dormouse</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/06/22/independent-8015-phi/#comment-196538</link>
		<dc:creator>Dormouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 14:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not too many problems - 1dn and 12ac were the last in.  Helps that as an SF fan I knew the Oort Cloud, and I&#039;m a great Martinu fan (new production of Julietta coming to London soon), and I&#039;ve even seen a production of Six Characters in Search of an Author.

Couldn&#039;t parse 3dn, for the reasons given in the blog, and 8dn, for the reason given by NealH.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not too many problems &#8211; 1dn and 12ac were the last in.  Helps that as an SF fan I knew the Oort Cloud, and I&#8217;m a great Martinu fan (new production of Julietta coming to London soon), and I&#8217;ve even seen a production of Six Characters in Search of an Author.</p>
<p>Couldn&#8217;t parse 3dn, for the reasons given in the blog, and 8dn, for the reason given by NealH.</p>
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		<title>By: NealH</title>
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		<dc:creator>NealH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 12:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was slightly hindered by putting Martino for 23 (mino[r] around art), which completely blew out the anagram in 4 down.  Unfortunately, there is a composer called Martino, although I&#039;m sure he isn&#039;t as famous as Martinu.  Unable to think of any other explanation for 4 apart from an anagram but having too many Os, I eventually resorted to the check key and spotted the problem.   

I&#039;m glad other people found &lt;i&gt;Itself&lt;/i&gt; tricky - it took me a long time to get it.  I didn&#039;t follow &lt;i&gt;Flattery&lt;/i&gt;, as I thought it was something like flat tyre with some of the letters rearranged.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was slightly hindered by putting Martino for 23 (mino[r] around art), which completely blew out the anagram in 4 down.  Unfortunately, there is a composer called Martino, although I&#8217;m sure he isn&#8217;t as famous as Martinu.  Unable to think of any other explanation for 4 apart from an anagram but having too many Os, I eventually resorted to the check key and spotted the problem.   </p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad other people found <i>Itself</i> tricky &#8211; it took me a long time to get it.  I didn&#8217;t follow <i>Flattery</i>, as I thought it was something like flat tyre with some of the letters rearranged.</p>
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		<title>By: nmsindy</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 10:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Phi, for a fairly tricky puzzle and B&amp;J for the blog in particular for explaining FLATTERY as I thought the car problem was a flat = puncture and could make no sense of the rest.    Favourite clue NOW YOU&#039;RE TALKING but all excellently clued as always.  In ECONOMIC MIGRANT I think the &#039;me&#039; just refers to the answer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Phi, for a fairly tricky puzzle and B&amp;J for the blog in particular for explaining FLATTERY as I thought the car problem was a flat = puncture and could make no sense of the rest.    Favourite clue NOW YOU&#8217;RE TALKING but all excellently clued as always.  In ECONOMIC MIGRANT I think the &#8216;me&#8217; just refers to the answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Allan_C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan_C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 10:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m with Polly on the forward/back question.  As far as crossword wordplay is concerned it seems simple to me - a letter moves forward towards the beginning (front) of the word and backward towards the end (back) of the word.  But I accept that others may see it the other way round.  It&#039;s a similar argument to that about &#039;reversal&#039; clues such as &#039;vehicle backs into trading place (4)&#039;; before you get any crossing letters is the answer &#039;tram&#039; or &#039;mart&#039;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Polly on the forward/back question.  As far as crossword wordplay is concerned it seems simple to me &#8211; a letter moves forward towards the beginning (front) of the word and backward towards the end (back) of the word.  But I accept that others may see it the other way round.  It&#8217;s a similar argument to that about &#8216;reversal&#8217; clues such as &#8216;vehicle backs into trading place (4)&#8217;; before you get any crossing letters is the answer &#8216;tram&#8217; or &#8216;mart&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: Polly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 09:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[K&#039;s D: There has been argument here before about forward/back. Granted, as you look at the word the T seems to have been moved back (to an earlier position), but if you bring an appointment forward you move it from a later to an earlier date, e.g. from Friday to Wednesday, which looks like a backward move on the calendar.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>K&#8217;s D: There has been argument here before about forward/back. Granted, as you look at the word the T seems to have been moved back (to an earlier position), but if you bring an appointment forward you move it from a later to an earlier date, e.g. from Friday to Wednesday, which looks like a backward move on the calendar.</p>
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		<title>By: duncanshiell</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 07:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There must be something about touring Europe that appeals to Independent bloggers.

Like Bertandjoyce and K&#039;s Dad my last one in was ITSELF.  When I put it in my first thoughts related to Franklin D Roosevelt&#039;s inauguration speech in March 1933 when he said &#039;the only thing we have to fear is fear itself&#039;.  That quote was made against the backdrop of a banking crisis, which fits well with the current situation.

This was another enjoyable puzzle from Phi.  PIRANDELLO is the &#039;six characters in search of an author&#039; guy and he crops up regularly as a solution or a theme in barred crosswords.  I liked the clue to FLATTERY.

Thanks to Phi and Bertandjoyce]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There must be something about touring Europe that appeals to Independent bloggers.</p>
<p>Like Bertandjoyce and K&#8217;s Dad my last one in was ITSELF.  When I put it in my first thoughts related to Franklin D Roosevelt&#8217;s inauguration speech in March 1933 when he said &#8216;the only thing we have to fear is fear itself&#8217;.  That quote was made against the backdrop of a banking crisis, which fits well with the current situation.</p>
<p>This was another enjoyable puzzle from Phi.  PIRANDELLO is the &#8216;six characters in search of an author&#8217; guy and he crops up regularly as a solution or a theme in barred crosswords.  I liked the clue to FLATTERY.</p>
<p>Thanks to Phi and Bertandjoyce</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn's Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn's Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 06:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, both, for a helpful and comprehensive blog.

Bit of music, bit of astronomy - must be Phi on the oche.  I liked this one - just about the right level of difficulty with one or two less common words clearly clued.  I had heard of PIRANDELLO - probably from crosswords, &#039;cos I couldn&#039;t tell you anything about him - and struggled also to get ITSELF, which was my last one in too.

I specially liked NOW YOU&#039;RE TALKING - Phi doesn&#039;t often do this type of clue, but it was a good one.  The only one I had a quibble about was TRIO: surely you have to move the T backwards, not forwards?

Thanks to Phi for the puzzle; and B&amp;J, spend those euros wisely, please ... next time you visit you might not have that pleasure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, both, for a helpful and comprehensive blog.</p>
<p>Bit of music, bit of astronomy &#8211; must be Phi on the oche.  I liked this one &#8211; just about the right level of difficulty with one or two less common words clearly clued.  I had heard of PIRANDELLO &#8211; probably from crosswords, &#8216;cos I couldn&#8217;t tell you anything about him &#8211; and struggled also to get ITSELF, which was my last one in too.</p>
<p>I specially liked NOW YOU&#8217;RE TALKING &#8211; Phi doesn&#8217;t often do this type of clue, but it was a good one.  The only one I had a quibble about was TRIO: surely you have to move the T backwards, not forwards?</p>
<p>Thanks to Phi for the puzzle; and B&amp;J, spend those euros wisely, please &#8230; next time you visit you might not have that pleasure.</p>
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