Comments on: Independent 8020 / Klingsor

By: JollySwagman

JollySwagman — Fri, 29 Jun 2012 05:32:07 +0000

Thanks K and B&J – enjoyed this greatly – it just kept on giving.

“Mobile” for “phone” was a doh-ahah-haha moment. I had the B and couldn’t get BELL out of my head.

By: Bertandjoyce

Bertandjoyce — Fri, 29 Jun 2012 02:53:11 +0000

Thanks Klingsor for stopping by and everyone else for the comments. Yes, flashling we are still supporting the Greek economy so we are out of sync with UK time and not able to reply during the day – or later at night!

Having read Eileen’s blog this morning before we set off on a walk, we hope all is well on the 225 front with Gaufrid and Schuua.

By: Klingsor

Klingsor — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 22:51:30 +0000

Wil, “coin” is defined as “to fabricate” (verb transitive) in Chambers. So “coined” = fabricated. Not sure I like it myself too much but it does the job. Ish.

By: flashling

flashling — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 22:48:16 +0000

@wil I took coined as “a new usage of” hence an anagrind, nice tricky but gettable with a bit of effort from Klingsor, cheers B&J still supporting/exploiting the Greek economy??

By: Wil Ransome

Wil Ransome — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 22:06:41 +0000

Excellent crossword. I thought 15ac was quite outstanding. Only one quibble: in 13dn, how on earth is ‘coined’ an anagram indicator? For something to be an anagram indicator there must be an indication of some kind of disturbance, I should have thought. Perhaps there is some sense of ‘coined’ of which I am unaware.

By: Dormouse

Dormouse — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 18:07:36 +0000

Another day of completing it with a large number of guesses. 15ac was obviously going to be “traffic wardens” and I got the gist of how the clue works, but I seem to have kept on looking at the wrong mix of words and letters for the anagram. And my first guess for 17ac was “peroxide blonde” but then I saw how the clue worked and changed my answer.

And no electronic help but I did use Chambers at the end and boobed. 1ac was the last in and having all the crossing letters I thumbed through Chambers for words starting a-e and quickly spotted “ageist” which I thought was so obviously right I didn’t think it through.

I did like 20dn.

By: Sil van den Hoek

Sil van den Hoek — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 17:49:39 +0000

An excellent crossword, though not as hard as a Klingsor can be.
While I had the ‘mobile’ part of 5d early on, it did not ring enough bells to get a song.
But then, Ah!: LA DONNA E MOBILE, one of my late father’s favourites. The b-side of a single he had (and put on the turntable very often), the a-side being Questa O Quella – or was it the other way around?

3d’s SHOW-OFF (very nice) was quickly found since I also solved today’s Crucible …. (which hasn’t been blogged so far).
Btw, a musical puzzle in which 5d would be wholly appropriate.

Today IAMBIC, yesterday (Brendan, on ‘the other side’) IAMBICS.

I think the long across ones, ALL SOULS DAY and TRAFFIC WARDENS, are stunning clues. And AGEISM is a, er, gem too.

B&J, needed your splendid blog for understanding COUNTENANCE.

To cite RCW, thanks all!

By: Klingsor

Klingsor — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 15:42:12 +0000

Many thanks to Bert and Joyce for the excellent blog. It’s always nice to get positive feedback but just as important (if not more so) is to know that one’s clues can be understood correctly by competent solvers.

The use of “are” is just as Polly explains. It’s probably an abbreviation that’s really more suited to Azeds and the like, but it’s a useful one when all other indications for A lead to gibberish. I try to use it sparingly.

Thanks again, Klingsor.

By: nmsindy

nmsindy — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 13:45:04 +0000

Yes, I thought this was a very pleasing puzzle with some of the excellent surfaces and misdirection one associates with Klingsor. Esp liked AGEISM, NOTATED, CLASS-CONSCIOUS, SHOW-OFF. Not an esp difficult puzzle – many thanks B&J and Klingsor.

By: Polly

Polly — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 08:39:39 +0000

I would guess that ‘are’ in the clue for RECTORS is a hundredth of a hectare and would be abbreviated ‘a’ (as is ‘acre’).