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Independent 8016 by Bannsider (Saturday Prize Puzzle 23 June 2012)

Posted by mc_rapper67 on June 30th, 2012


It’s Saturday, it’s my turn to blog…and it is yet another Bannsider! Not that I’m complaining – excellent clueing, as usual, although I would say this was possibly at the ‘easier’ end of the Bannsider scale…and maybe a bit of a football theme-ette to boot?…

Nothing topical like Euro 2012 – but I suspect Bannsider may be from the Red half of Liverpool – as we have 15A KENNY DALGLISH being 22A HASSLED after the latest 9A BLOOMER from his team, showing some poor 1A BODY LANGUAGE and being 24A ‘ASSASSINATED’ (by the owners, or by the Press? 23D SUN?) causing flags to 16A FLY AT HALF-MAST? (But not in Everton households…) If only his players had scored a few more 6D GOLDEN GOAL(s), he wouldn’t have been in the 8D DOODAH. Maybe he should have signed the Germany captain, Philipp (3d) LA(h)M. At the end of the day, it seems there is only room for one dour, unintelligible, red-nosed, wind-swept, gum-chewing Scottish manager in the Premiership – so the young(?) pretender heard the fateful words: ‘You’re fired!’…

Why ‘easier’? The four 3-letter and two 4-letter clues were relatively ‘quick gets’ I felt, for all the enjoyment of their surface readings – almost as though the need to get those four long across answers in meant some compromise elsewhere? Add in BLOOMER and CANDID – maybe I was on a roll? – and there were a lot of helpful letters for some of the longer/harder clues.

But there were still some gems – 4D with the childminder involved in murder; the Murray/Lendl diversion in the Kenny Dalglish anagram; and the use of ‘buns (four in total)’ to indicate ‘ASS + ASS’ – I nearly LMAO when I finally got to the bottom of that one…and then the use of BO(B) DYLAN in 1A, class!

And some education – I didn’t know what a FIPPLE was, and had to check the DVORAK KEYBOARD, although both could be entered fairly confidently from the parsing and crossing letters. 

Some light-hearted fun, well worthy of a Saturday prize slot – let’s just hope this doesn’t inspire any revenge attacks from Everton-supporting setters…or, even worse, from further along the M62…

Clue No Solution Clue Definition (with occasional embellishments) /
1A BODY LANGUAGE Reading material from singer-songwriter releasing second book as month turned (4, 8 ) Reading ‘material’ /
BO(B) DYLAN (singer-songwriter, without second B – or book) + GUAGE (EG – as – AUG – month, all turned)
9A BLOOMER Large slip or short knickers (7) Large slip (mistake) /
BLOOMER(S) – knickers – short of last letter
10A RELIEVO Outstanding work of vicar, not one penning fiction (7) Outstanding work /
REV (vicar) + O (zero, not one), around (penning) LIE (fiction)
11A LEAF Thumb’s something for grazing on top of flint (4) Thumb (through, e.g. a book) /
LEA (meadow, something for grazing) + F (first letter of flint)
12A BESCREENED Balls appearing on Scottish peak keeping small stones hidden no longer (10) Hidden, no longer (archaic term) /
BEN (Scottish mountain, or peak) + SCREE (small stones) + ED (Ed Balls, politician)
15A KENNY DALGLISH Coach Lendl shaking Murray, at last renewed (5,8 ) Coach (ex-, of Liverpool) /
anag (i.e. renewed) of LENDL SHAKING + Y (last letter of Murray)
16A FLY AT HALF-MAST Mark one’s passing on as standard (3, 2, 4-4) &lit /
A flag (standard) flies at half-mast to mark the passing of an important person
18A PROTRUDING Goofy’s dog put in empty reservoir, tragically (10) Goofy (as in teeth) /
anag (i.e. tragically) of DOG PUT IN + RR (ReservoiR, emptied of its middle letters)
19A BETA Sides in Brisbane and Tansmania for the final test (4) final test (e.g. of software release) /
first and last letters of BrisbanE + TasmaniA
20A LARISSA Was Sir allowed to hold her back? (7) Her (girl’s name) /
reversed hidden word in wAS SIR ALlowed
22A HASSLED Can evidently make a winter journey far from trouble-free (7) Far from trouble-free /
&lit-ish – if one HAS a SLED, one can evidently make a winter journey
24A ASSASSINATED Iced buns (four in total) at home consumed by daughter (12) Iced (as in killed, bumped off) /
ASS + ASS (four ‘buns’, or buttocks!) + IN (at home) + ATE (consumed) + D (daughter)
Clue No Solution Clue Definition (with occasional embellishments) /
1D BOBBLE Gentry maybe swapping tips on Imperial Ball (6) Ball /
BOBB(I)E Gentry, changing I to L (swapping tips, or ends of ImperiaL)
2D DVORAK KEYBOARD Resource tapped by author and composer (nothing to stop major poet also) (6,8) Resource tapped by author /
DVORAK (composer, Anton) + KEY BARD (major poet) around (stopping) O (nothing)
3D LAM Intro departs from 70’s style rock beat (3) Beat /
(G)LAM – 70’s style rock, without intro letter
4D NURSERYMAID Childminder involved in murder, say (11) Childminder /
anag (i.e. involved) of IN MURDER SAY
5D UAR Gripped by traumatic uprising, as Egypt was once (3) (former name of) Egypt (1958-71) /
hidden and rising letters in tRAUmatic
6D GOLDEN GOAL Au pairs seen regularly during evening out with a large score to settle (6, 4) Score to settle (e.g. a tied football match) /
GOLD (Au) + EN GO (regular pairs of letters from evENinG Out) + A + L (large)
7D PENNY-IN-THE-SLOT This requiring change from telephonist (inserting notes unknown)? (5-2-3-4) &lit, machine requiring change, e.g. pay-phone /
anag (i.e. change from) TELEPHONIST, around NN (notes) + Y (unknown)
8D DOODAH Party pop sounds that one can’t name (6) (something) one can’t name /
homophones – DOO (do, or party) + DAH (Dad, or pop)
13D CHAFFINCHES Fliers kid steals when penniless (11) Fliers (birds) /
CHAFF (kid, banter with) + (P)INCHES (steals, without P – penny)
14D UNIT TRUSTS Are they invested in for a rainy day? I put on brown coat in case of this (4, 6) (something) invested in, for a rainy day /
UNIT (I, or one) + TS (case, outer letters of ThiS) around RUST (brown coat)
16D FIPPLE Pawns crocodile bags in part for wind instrument (6) Part for (of) wind instrument /
FILE (crocodile, queue of school children) around (bags) P+P (pawns)
17D CANDID Frank and John cooked (6) Frank (open, honest) /
CAN (toilet, or John) + DID (cooked)
21D AHA Triumphant cry from whaler cut short (3) Triumphant cry /
AHA(B) – whaler, from Moby Dick, cut short
23D SUN Rag some would say students organised the wrong way (3) Rag (red-top, tabloid newspaper) /
NUS (National Union of Students) the wrong way

7 Responses to “Independent 8016 by Bannsider (Saturday Prize Puzzle 23 June 2012)”

  1. flashling says:

    Actually I think the Bann man is from N.I. although he may well be a Liverpool fan/ Finished it but a real struggle as was expected when I saw the setter. Ta MC_R, you Saturday bloggers do tend to get some real pigs to do.

  2. Dormouse says:

    Didn’t quite finish this. I’d heard of Bobbie Gentry but couldn’t see how the clue worked and guessed “Bobbie” to be the answer, which prevented me from getting 11ac.

    Incidentally, to be pedantic, the definition part of 16dn is “part of wind instrument”, which is what a fipple is.

  3. mc_rapper67 says:

    Thanks for the feedback, Dormouse and flashling – perhaps my assessment of this as an ‘easier’ Bannsider was misplaced…maybe I was just on a roll last weekend, on a high for having won one of the previous week’s prizes!

    And I have updated the definition of ‘FIPPLE’ as per Dormouse at #2, thanks. Pedantry welcomed, in fact I think it is ‘de rigueur’ on a site like this…

  4. nmsindy says:

    Cracking puzzle, this. Very difficult and very enjoyable. Favourites BLOOMER, HASSLED, UNIT TRUST, CANDID but all very good.
    I don’t think there is a Liverpool connection – Bannsider is a fan of Coleraine (The Bannsiders!) in his homeland and Arsenal in England where he lives now. Thanks for the excellent blog mc_rapper67 and to Bannsider of course.

  5. Dormouse says:

    And I suppose I ought to be pedantic about #2 and point out that between re-reading the clue and typing my response, “part for” got changed to “part of”. :-)

  6. Paul B says:

    Cheers Mike & RR, great stuff indeed.

    Let me rant. Where some compilers are difficult because they use the wrong parts of speech, obscure bits and bobs in SI, single-letter indication unknown to all but workaholic lexiocographers, or indicators in general that only half make sense, some others, perhaps like the Bannsider, are tough through sheer inventiveness or unexpected use of the usual. So as you go through you are delighted as things unfold, never perturbed. I was beaten fairly here a few times, and didn’t mind at all.

    Gems for me today include ‘pairs regularly seen in’, ‘in case of’, and ‘swapping tips on’, all of which are going into my How To Do It Properly book.

  7. crypticsue says:

    Following the recent S&B Meeting a fellow blogger asked me whether meeting the setters might influence the way you blog their puzzles thereafter. I said that it hadn’t had that affect on me.

    However, I have always struggled to put in more than a few clues in a Bannsider and discussed with him at the gathering whether it was him that was hard or me that was hopeless. When I started last Saturday’s puzzle I could only fill in a few, but I persevered on and off all day and into the evening and I finished it. My conclusion is that it is probably a bit of both – he sets hard puzzles and I ought to try harder. Thanks to him for stretching me good and proper and mcrapper for the review.

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