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		<title>By: Dormouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dormouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 18:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, The Tempest is one of my favourite plays - even went to see a performance in Russian last year - so my complaint is there wasn&#039;t enough references to the play.  I must admit some surprise at people saying they didn&#039;t know the quotations; seems to me they were things I&#039;d known since birth.

5/13 took me ages as I&#039;d been working on the anagram being of &quot;fiery trophy&quot; plus &#039;a&#039; for amateur with comical being the indicator.  And I just couldn&#039;t think of any words beginning o-y.  &quot;Olympic&quot; is hardly obscure at the moment.

15ac was the last in for me, by which time I was at the &quot;I&#039;ll get that word even if it takes me all night&quot; stage and I picked up Chambers and started going through words beginning t-c.  Fortunately, that way the answer comes fairly quickly in the search.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, The Tempest is one of my favourite plays &#8211; even went to see a performance in Russian last year &#8211; so my complaint is there wasn&#8217;t enough references to the play.  I must admit some surprise at people saying they didn&#8217;t know the quotations; seems to me they were things I&#8217;d known since birth.</p>
<p>5/13 took me ages as I&#8217;d been working on the anagram being of &#8220;fiery trophy&#8221; plus &#8216;a&#8217; for amateur with comical being the indicator.  And I just couldn&#8217;t think of any words beginning o-y.  &#8220;Olympic&#8221; is hardly obscure at the moment.</p>
<p>15ac was the last in for me, by which time I was at the &#8220;I&#8217;ll get that word even if it takes me all night&#8221; stage and I picked up Chambers and started going through words beginning t-c.  Fortunately, that way the answer comes fairly quickly in the search.</p>
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		<title>By: Sil van den Hoek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sil van den Hoek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 17:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In cross-referenced/themed puzzles I always try to find the (or one of the) gateway clue(s) first. So I started with 4d which gave me TEMPEST straightaway. Happy me? Well, it was more like &quot;Oh God, it&#039;s Him again&quot;.
But, while indeed it was, I enjoyed the crossword tremendously.

Although I couldn&#039;t parse it when I solved the puzzle today around noon, I think NUTCASE (21ac) was great - almost novel.
And RR, LUDDITE (11ac) was another one I needed your fine blog for. Oh, those cryptic definitions. One doesn&#039;t expect them that often when this setter&#039;s around. A setter who is more focused on constructional devices (in all his - much admired - disguises).

My Clue of the Day is perhaps (because there were more contenders) 5,13 (OLYMPIC TORCH).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In cross-referenced/themed puzzles I always try to find the (or one of the) gateway clue(s) first. So I started with 4d which gave me TEMPEST straightaway. Happy me? Well, it was more like &#8220;Oh God, it&#8217;s Him again&#8221;.<br />
But, while indeed it was, I enjoyed the crossword tremendously.</p>
<p>Although I couldn&#8217;t parse it when I solved the puzzle today around noon, I think NUTCASE (21ac) was great &#8211; almost novel.<br />
And RR, LUDDITE (11ac) was another one I needed your fine blog for. Oh, those cryptic definitions. One doesn&#8217;t expect them that often when this setter&#8217;s around. A setter who is more focused on constructional devices (in all his &#8211; much admired &#8211; disguises).</p>
<p>My Clue of the Day is perhaps (because there were more contenders) 5,13 (OLYMPIC TORCH).</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn's Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn's Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 16:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, RatkojaRiku.  The typos are the least of our worries - I needed you to explain quite a few today.  I said I was &#039;themed out&#039; last week, and with two further themed puzzles in the last two days, I&#039;m looking forward to Dac tomorrow for (I hope) a plain but entertaining crossword without the need to cross-reference clues.

The gateway clue here was gettable (thank you to setter), and although my knowledge of The Tempest is skinny, I knew the top quote and guessed the bottom one; after that it was steady progress, with MAYFLIES my favourite today.  Or as one mayfly said to his partner: &quot;What do you mean, &#039;Not tonight, darling&#039;?&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, RatkojaRiku.  The typos are the least of our worries &#8211; I needed you to explain quite a few today.  I said I was &#8216;themed out&#8217; last week, and with two further themed puzzles in the last two days, I&#8217;m looking forward to Dac tomorrow for (I hope) a plain but entertaining crossword without the need to cross-reference clues.</p>
<p>The gateway clue here was gettable (thank you to setter), and although my knowledge of The Tempest is skinny, I knew the top quote and guessed the bottom one; after that it was steady progress, with MAYFLIES my favourite today.  Or as one mayfly said to his partner: &#8220;What do you mean, &#8216;Not tonight, darling&#8217;?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: RatkojaRiku</title>
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		<dc:creator>RatkojaRiku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 14:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for pointing out the typo, nmsindy - I do my level best, but sometimes things just slip through the net amid the chaos of a working day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for pointing out the typo, nmsindy &#8211; I do my level best, but sometimes things just slip through the net amid the chaos of a working day.</p>
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		<title>By: nmsindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>nmsindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 13:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, RR and Radian.    My knowledge of the play was pretty sketchy tho I&#039;d heard some of the characters&#039; names over the years.   It was a very enjoyable puzzle in which I eventually was able to word out pretty much everything from the wordplay tho I did check a dict to see what &#039;anthropoid&#039; meant.   Never knew Huxley&#039;s book title came from a quote from Shakespeare (27A) nor that Prospero was a magician.  Tough puzzle for sure with some good misdirection - favourites FIDELITY BOND, FANLIGHTS, ANIMA.   PS one typo - in the 21A explanation, it should be &#039;punctuation&#039; rather than &#039;pronunciation&#039;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, RR and Radian.    My knowledge of the play was pretty sketchy tho I&#8217;d heard some of the characters&#8217; names over the years.   It was a very enjoyable puzzle in which I eventually was able to word out pretty much everything from the wordplay tho I did check a dict to see what &#8216;anthropoid&#8217; meant.   Never knew Huxley&#8217;s book title came from a quote from Shakespeare (27A) nor that Prospero was a magician.  Tough puzzle for sure with some good misdirection &#8211; favourites FIDELITY BOND, FANLIGHTS, ANIMA.   PS one typo &#8211; in the 21A explanation, it should be &#8216;punctuation&#8217; rather than &#8216;pronunciation&#8217;</p>
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