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		<title>By: mc_rapper67</title>
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		<dc:creator>mc_rapper67</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2012 19:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Robi at #6: you may be right ... at the end of the day, if I can solve it and explain it in a blog I&#039;m happy - the classification is a technicality!

You have spurred my curiosity though, so here is one pointer, from http://www.crosswordunclued.com/2010/06/cryptic-definition-vs.html:

&quot;
Here&#039;s a quick tip to dispel the confusion. 

  In an &amp;lit clue, the whole clue is both the definition and the wordplay.  
  In a cryptic definition, the whole clue is only the definition. There is no separate wordplay.
&quot;

Re Napoleon - I had heard an urban myth that it is still illegal in France to name a pig &#039;Napoleon&#039;, presumably at the risk of causing offence to the memory of the great little man...(?)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robi at #6: you may be right &#8230; at the end of the day, if I can solve it and explain it in a blog I&#8217;m happy &#8211; the classification is a technicality!</p>
<p>You have spurred my curiosity though, so here is one pointer, from <a href="http://www.crosswordunclued.com/2010/06/cryptic-definition-vs.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.crosswordunclued.com/2010/06/cryptic-definition-vs.html</a>:</p>
<p>&#8221;<br />
Here&#8217;s a quick tip to dispel the confusion. </p>
<p>  In an &amp;lit clue, the whole clue is both the definition and the wordplay.<br />
  In a cryptic definition, the whole clue is only the definition. There is no separate wordplay.<br />
&#8221;</p>
<p>Re Napoleon &#8211; I had heard an urban myth that it is still illegal in France to name a pig &#8216;Napoleon&#8217;, presumably at the risk of causing offence to the memory of the great little man&#8230;(?)</p>
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		<title>By: Paul B</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2012 17:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re MAUDLIN, I note Everyman&#039;s dark blue bias. Poor old Magdalene.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re MAUDLIN, I note Everyman&#8217;s dark blue bias. Poor old Magdalene.</p>
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		<title>By: Robi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2012 09:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks mc_rapper67 for your good blog; I needed your help to parse NOT A SAUSAGE. 

Usual smooth surfaces from Everyman. I did remember Napoleon the pig from Animal Farm, but I couldn&#039;t remember the name of the Farm [Google did oblige.] 

Not sure that I should put my toe in the &amp;lit water but isn&#039;t MANOR FARM a cd rather than an &amp;lit? I particularly enjoyed WHEELBARROW for the misleading use of &#039;turn round.&#039; :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks mc_rapper67 for your good blog; I needed your help to parse NOT A SAUSAGE. </p>
<p>Usual smooth surfaces from Everyman. I did remember Napoleon the pig from Animal Farm, but I couldn&#8217;t remember the name of the Farm [Google did oblige.] </p>
<p>Not sure that I should put my toe in the &amp;lit water but isn&#8217;t MANOR FARM a cd rather than an &amp;lit? I particularly enjoyed WHEELBARROW for the misleading use of &#8216;turn round.&#8217; <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn's Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn's Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2012 09:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, mc_rapper67, for a fine blog, and for stepping into the breach, dear friend.

I wouldn&#039;t exactly describe myself as a beginner, but I always do the Everyman, because it&#039;s invariably a sound, accessible puzzle with lots to enjoy, so I think more experienced solvers can also enjoy it.

There is usually a wide range of reference material, too, and today I was pleased to be reminded of THORA HIRD and NAPOLEON from Animal Farm, which I must have read last in &#039;67.

Donna, I&#039;m not surprised you struggled with NOT A SAUSAGE - I think it&#039;s an expression very much in British, rather than American, English.  But then we Brits have to memorise all the two-letter abbreviations for your fifty states ... life can be tough sometimes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, mc_rapper67, for a fine blog, and for stepping into the breach, dear friend.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t exactly describe myself as a beginner, but I always do the Everyman, because it&#8217;s invariably a sound, accessible puzzle with lots to enjoy, so I think more experienced solvers can also enjoy it.</p>
<p>There is usually a wide range of reference material, too, and today I was pleased to be reminded of THORA HIRD and NAPOLEON from Animal Farm, which I must have read last in &#8217;67.</p>
<p>Donna, I&#8217;m not surprised you struggled with NOT A SAUSAGE &#8211; I think it&#8217;s an expression very much in British, rather than American, English.  But then we Brits have to memorise all the two-letter abbreviations for your fifty states &#8230; life can be tough sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: mc_rapper67</title>
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		<dc:creator>mc_rapper67</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2012 09:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the feedback and comments.

Donna at #1 - a lovely exposition of the solving process...and nice to see an American being forced to spell &#039;sceptic&#039; properly (;+&gt;)

Bamberger at #2 - I have corrected the spelling of Magdalen College, thanks.

Davy at #3 - as far as 1967 is concerned, very significant as it was my entry in to this wonderful world...I guess my parents had been celebrating England&#039;s win in the 1966 World Cup!...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the feedback and comments.</p>
<p>Donna at #1 &#8211; a lovely exposition of the solving process&#8230;and nice to see an American being forced to spell &#8216;sceptic&#8217; properly (;+&gt;)</p>
<p>Bamberger at #2 &#8211; I have corrected the spelling of Magdalen College, thanks.</p>
<p>Davy at #3 &#8211; as far as 1967 is concerned, very significant as it was my entry in to this wonderful world&#8230;I guess my parents had been celebrating England&#8217;s win in the 1966 World Cup!&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Davy</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2012 08:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks mc_rapper67 for your excellent blog and I totally agree with your assessment of this puzzle.
I also liked IMAGINE although its construction is fairly obvious I suppose. Thanks Everyman for yet
another very entertaining crossword. I would maintain that Everyman is not just for beginners and 
judging by the commenters, this does seem to be the case.

PS mc_rapper67 : does 67 have a special significance to you as 1967 was my favourite year when I was
young and foolish ?. Still foolish though so no change there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks mc_rapper67 for your excellent blog and I totally agree with your assessment of this puzzle.<br />
I also liked IMAGINE although its construction is fairly obvious I suppose. Thanks Everyman for yet<br />
another very entertaining crossword. I would maintain that Everyman is not just for beginners and<br />
judging by the commenters, this does seem to be the case.</p>
<p>PS mc_rapper67 : does 67 have a special significance to you as 1967 was my favourite year when I was<br />
young and foolish ?. Still foolish though so no change there.</p>
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		<title>By: Bamberger</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2012 07:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guessed 13d must be manor farm but had no idea why. My best guess was that some biographer of the French Napolean had named a chapter about his life on Manor Farm.
8a the Oxford version is Magdalen -Fenbog Poly has the other spelling.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guessed 13d must be manor farm but had no idea why. My best guess was that some biographer of the French Napolean had named a chapter about his life on Manor Farm.<br />
8a the Oxford version is Magdalen -Fenbog Poly has the other spelling.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 23:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, Everyman, for the puzzle and mc_rapper67, for the enjoyable blog. I managed to solve the entire puzzle, but a few clues gave me a bit of a tussle. At first I spelled 18 Down &quot;Skeptic&quot; as we do here in the States, but then quickly realized that this was an Everyman and changed the spelling to &quot;Sceptic,&quot; which, of course, made perfect sense! I&#039;d never heard the expression &quot;not a sausage&quot; at 9 Down, but when I saw the answer heading that way, I checked it in Chambers. 13 Down confused me for a bit and my husband said that he recalled a fictional pig named Napoleon but he couldn&#039;t remember what book it was from. I immediately thought of &quot;Charlotte&#039;s Web,&quot; but that pig is named Wilbur! So I googled &quot;fictional pig Napoleon&quot; and then eventually stumbled upon &quot;Animal Farm.&quot; I knew that 6 Down was an anagram and I had all the crossing letters but realized that this was probably an actress I&#039;d never heard of. So I kept on playing around, inserting different letters and googling them and finally I did get Thora Hird! It turns out that I had seen her on TV once or twice but didn&#039;t know her name. So, all in all, a most entertaining and informative puzzle! Hope you all had as much fun with it as I did! &quot;See&quot; you next week!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Everyman, for the puzzle and mc_rapper67, for the enjoyable blog. I managed to solve the entire puzzle, but a few clues gave me a bit of a tussle. At first I spelled 18 Down &#8220;Skeptic&#8221; as we do here in the States, but then quickly realized that this was an Everyman and changed the spelling to &#8220;Sceptic,&#8221; which, of course, made perfect sense! I&#8217;d never heard the expression &#8220;not a sausage&#8221; at 9 Down, but when I saw the answer heading that way, I checked it in Chambers. 13 Down confused me for a bit and my husband said that he recalled a fictional pig named Napoleon but he couldn&#8217;t remember what book it was from. I immediately thought of &#8220;Charlotte&#8217;s Web,&#8221; but that pig is named Wilbur! So I googled &#8220;fictional pig Napoleon&#8221; and then eventually stumbled upon &#8220;Animal Farm.&#8221; I knew that 6 Down was an anagram and I had all the crossing letters but realized that this was probably an actress I&#8217;d never heard of. So I kept on playing around, inserting different letters and googling them and finally I did get Thora Hird! It turns out that I had seen her on TV once or twice but didn&#8217;t know her name. So, all in all, a most entertaining and informative puzzle! Hope you all had as much fun with it as I did! &#8220;See&#8221; you next week!</p>
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