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	<title>Comments on: Guardian Cryptic N° 25,685 by Pasquale</title>
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		<title>By: brucew_aus</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/07/11/guardian-cryptic-n-25685-by-pasquale/#comment-198897</link>
		<dc:creator>brucew_aus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 13:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Pasquale and PeterO

This was not an easy solve and have persisted for more than a week just chipping away at him (finished on 19th) until he finally buckled.  I entered both RUSH and ERODED initially which just put one behind the 8-ball straightaway and took a bit of work to get back on track.

Deceptive really when EXCISE went in immediately and quickly finished off the SE corner - had not heard of my last in, BALTIC, used in that context before and took a while to remember the BALTI roll that I had for lunch a few weeks ago.  SEANAD, FORAMINIFER, ANDALUSITE and BRIDLINGTON all new to me as well, so did need a bit of reference help to get over the line.

Still it is always a pleasure having the wrestle with this setter and always look forward to starting one of them.

Thanks again]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Pasquale and PeterO</p>
<p>This was not an easy solve and have persisted for more than a week just chipping away at him (finished on 19th) until he finally buckled.  I entered both RUSH and ERODED initially which just put one behind the 8-ball straightaway and took a bit of work to get back on track.</p>
<p>Deceptive really when EXCISE went in immediately and quickly finished off the SE corner &#8211; had not heard of my last in, BALTIC, used in that context before and took a while to remember the BALTI roll that I had for lunch a few weeks ago.  SEANAD, FORAMINIFER, ANDALUSITE and BRIDLINGTON all new to me as well, so did need a bit of reference help to get over the line.</p>
<p>Still it is always a pleasure having the wrestle with this setter and always look forward to starting one of them.</p>
<p>Thanks again</p>
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		<title>By: RCWhiting</title>
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		<dc:creator>RCWhiting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry,I misunderstood your last para @43.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry,I misunderstood your last para @43.</p>
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		<title>By: duncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DNF here too, though I will stash the new knowledge away for the future. I had &quot;bridlington&quot; but didn&#039;t put it in because I didn&#039;t know &quot;ton&quot;. a great many new words, a few forgotten, &amp; the absolute certainty that there was no way the canadian pomp-rock trio would have found their way into a pasquale....
onwards &amp; upwards.

d.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DNF here too, though I will stash the new knowledge away for the future. I had &#8220;bridlington&#8221; but didn&#8217;t put it in because I didn&#8217;t know &#8220;ton&#8221;. a great many new words, a few forgotten, &amp; the absolute certainty that there was no way the canadian pomp-rock trio would have found their way into a pasquale&#8230;.<br />
onwards &amp; upwards.</p>
<p>d.</p>
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		<title>By: Davy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RCW at 45 : I would suggest that you read these comments properly especially 42.

I found T4TT as &#039;Time for the truth&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RCW at 45 : I would suggest that you read these comments properly especially 42.</p>
<p>I found T4TT as &#8216;Time for the truth&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 10:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, a toughie.  I put &quot;Rush&quot; for 11 ac.  It was all downhill from there..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, a toughie.  I put &#8220;Rush&#8221; for 11 ac.  It was all downhill from there..</p>
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		<title>By: Sil van den Hoek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sil van den Hoek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 10:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[T4TT is probably Times For The Times (the Times crossword blog), am I right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T4TT is probably Times For The Times (the Times crossword blog), am I right?</p>
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		<title>By: RCWhiting</title>
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		<dc:creator>RCWhiting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 10:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Davy @43
It&#039;s &#039;foraminifer&#039; not &#039;forafiminer&#039;.
Davy @44
Athletics fans (me) would recognise DNF as &#039;did not finish&#039;.
Can&#039;t help with T4TT.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Davy @43<br />
It&#8217;s &#8216;foraminifer&#8217; not &#8216;forafiminer&#8217;.<br />
Davy @44<br />
Athletics fans (me) would recognise DNF as &#8216;did not finish&#8217;.<br />
Can&#8217;t help with T4TT.</p>
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		<title>By: Davy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 08:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are a pageful of different meanings for DNF ie http://www.acronymfinder.com/DNF.html
so which one JS ?.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a pageful of different meanings for DNF ie <a href="http://www.acronymfinder.com/DNF.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.acronymfinder.com/DNF.html</a><br />
so which one JS ?.</p>
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		<title>By: Davy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 08:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Pasquale, 

Certainly a tough one. I gave up with about a third uncompleted. Sad thing is that I guessed FORAMINIFER but it seemed so unlikely that
I didn&#039;t even bother to check it. Hey ho.

I wasn&#039;t going to bother commenting until I saw JollySwagman at 42. I&#039;m just off to check what T4TT and DNF mean.
Should I know what these terms mean or am I just hopelessly out of touch (hopefully) ?.
Incidentally, just to be pedantic (what again), your FORAFIMINER does not fit the clue as it contains FI and not IF.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Pasquale, </p>
<p>Certainly a tough one. I gave up with about a third uncompleted. Sad thing is that I guessed FORAMINIFER but it seemed so unlikely that<br />
I didn&#8217;t even bother to check it. Hey ho.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t going to bother commenting until I saw JollySwagman at 42. I&#8217;m just off to check what T4TT and DNF mean.<br />
Should I know what these terms mean or am I just hopelessly out of touch (hopefully) ?.<br />
Incidentally, just to be pedantic (what again), your FORAFIMINER does not fit the clue as it contains FI and not IF.</p>
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		<title>By: JollySwagman</title>
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		<dc:creator>JollySwagman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 03:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow Grauniad grid #31 eh! Half a mo while I cross that off in my gridspotters almanac. Aren&#039;t ones like that are designed so you can put ninas round the edge, for even greater excitement? Short-changed there maybe.

Usual lack of entertainment value from this setter taking the puzzle as a whole which is a shame since many of the minor clues were rather good. If you knew the obscurities, especially foraminifer, it was prolly a pushover, if not it spoiled the fun a bit, as they were in key positions. I don&#039;t see the grid itself as a problem otherwise.

Actually I built that as FORAFIMINER (before consulting the big red one) so in the terminology of T4TT a technical DNF for me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Grauniad grid #31 eh! Half a mo while I cross that off in my gridspotters almanac. Aren&#8217;t ones like that are designed so you can put ninas round the edge, for even greater excitement? Short-changed there maybe.</p>
<p>Usual lack of entertainment value from this setter taking the puzzle as a whole which is a shame since many of the minor clues were rather good. If you knew the obscurities, especially foraminifer, it was prolly a pushover, if not it spoiled the fun a bit, as they were in key positions. I don&#8217;t see the grid itself as a problem otherwise.</p>
<p>Actually I built that as FORAFIMINER (before consulting the big red one) so in the terminology of T4TT a technical DNF for me.</p>
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