Comments on: Independent 8039 / Phi

By: Phi

Phi — Sat, 21 Jul 2012 22:08:33 +0000

Well, I never saw HIP. GENITALS being pure chance as well, of course, leaving my claim of five to stand…

By: Bertandjoyce

Bertandjoyce — Sat, 21 Jul 2012 05:59:36 +0000

Thanks for dropping by Phi.

We found head, hand, hand, hip, genitals, knee and foot. So, 7 in total including row 10 but we counted each hand!

A really enjoyable solve!

By: Phi

Phi — Sat, 21 Jul 2012 03:12:16 +0000

You found SEVEN body parts in addition to row 10? I only put five in…

By: Dormouse

Dormouse — Fri, 20 Jul 2012 19:07:39 +0000

After two days of complete failure, I did manage to complete this, and without electronic help, although my copy of Chambers was useful.

I had great trouble with this at lunchtime but when I went back to it just now (after seeing the Olympic torch go past my house), clues that I just couldn’t see suddenly became obvious. Makes me wonder how much other factors affect my solving other than just the difficulty of the crossword.

“Knee stops” was the last one in for me – I was think SH as well. I’d not come across ST either.

Did I spot the nina and theme? Of course not!

By: Kathryn's Dad

Kathryn's Dad — Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:14:17 +0000

Thanks, both.

Enjoyed this one, as is usual with Phi, although I was a bit rushed this morning and couldn’t really step back to appreciate it until now. I was vaguely aware of the body parts scattered around the grid, but GENITALS passed me by (story of my life). HEADPHONES was good (although I was trying for ages to work out how PHONY would fit) and I also thought STAIRCASE was nicely misleading.

Thanks to Phi as always.

By: Bertandjoyce

Bertandjoyce — Fri, 20 Jul 2012 13:37:29 +0000

No we weren’t including legs as we hadn’t spotted them! Mind you, as there is only one ‘foot’ perhaps we only need one.

By: Wanderer

Wanderer — Fri, 20 Jul 2012 13:25:25 +0000

Thanks for the nudge at 7, B&J. I had spotted the nina at row 10 but had not made the connection to other body parts.

Are you including 19, NEGLECT, and 21, ALBERGO? I want to, because both contain leg — anagrammed in nEGLect and ‘every-othered’ in aLbErGo. If this is allowed, their symmetrical position gives us a left and right LEG to go with the left and right HAND at 12 and 14. Also nice touch to put HEAD at the top and FOOT at the bottom. Lovely stuff as always from Phi.

By: Bertandjoyce

Bertandjoyce — Fri, 20 Jul 2012 13:04:54 +0000

Think of different body parts!

By: sidey

sidey — Fri, 20 Jul 2012 12:56:54 +0000

Sorry, I should have said I can't spot a single example of row 10.

By: Bertandjoyce

Bertandjoyce — Fri, 20 Jul 2012 11:36:04 +0000

Forgot about corsets!! Thanks Sidey.

Row 10 starts with the G in 22d and contains all the unchecked letters across the grid. Hope that helps. We found SALINE in column 10 though.