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	<title>Comments on: Guardian 25,697 / Orlando</title>
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		<title>By: Huw Powell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Huw Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2012 00:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I enjoyed this a lot.  A nice change from whining which I think I did a lot of over last week&#039;s offerings?  Hope I didn&#039;t offend.

For me this was a classic &quot;mostly gettable if you work at it&quot; puzzle.  Got a couple-three short words last night, then sat down and got serious this morning.  One of the pleasures was in the general area of being half-done, and each new answer helping me finally solve what was a stumper to me.  Many of those stumpers were also &quot;ahas&quot; since once solved they were &quot;obvious&quot;!

That kind of thing is fun.

Never would have got OXFORD BAGS in a million years, even after typing &quot;BANF&quot; into wikipedia and getting the checked F.  But that&#039;s not a fault at all with the puzzle, simply a cultural thing.

I expected TURN-OFF to be more complex, like a play a cricket side performs.  Should have opened my Chambers to ink in CUT, I bought that lovely book for a reason.

Totally missed EXAMS, was half-happy with a penciled in &quot;Evans&quot;, which of course doesn&#039;t work anyway.

Thought it was odd for a US Spaceship to use British spelling.

1D was first in and gave great pleasure.

Thanks for the wonderful series of mind-twisting pleasures - and for dropping by, it is so nice for the setters to do so, Orlando, and for the excellent as ever blog Eileen.  And everyone else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed this a lot.  A nice change from whining which I think I did a lot of over last week&#8217;s offerings?  Hope I didn&#8217;t offend.</p>
<p>For me this was a classic &#8220;mostly gettable if you work at it&#8221; puzzle.  Got a couple-three short words last night, then sat down and got serious this morning.  One of the pleasures was in the general area of being half-done, and each new answer helping me finally solve what was a stumper to me.  Many of those stumpers were also &#8220;ahas&#8221; since once solved they were &#8220;obvious&#8221;!</p>
<p>That kind of thing is fun.</p>
<p>Never would have got OXFORD BAGS in a million years, even after typing &#8220;BANF&#8221; into wikipedia and getting the checked F.  But that&#8217;s not a fault at all with the puzzle, simply a cultural thing.</p>
<p>I expected TURN-OFF to be more complex, like a play a cricket side performs.  Should have opened my Chambers to ink in CUT, I bought that lovely book for a reason.</p>
<p>Totally missed EXAMS, was half-happy with a penciled in &#8220;Evans&#8221;, which of course doesn&#8217;t work anyway.</p>
<p>Thought it was odd for a US Spaceship to use British spelling.</p>
<p>1D was first in and gave great pleasure.</p>
<p>Thanks for the wonderful series of mind-twisting pleasures &#8211; and for dropping by, it is so nice for the setters to do so, Orlando, and for the excellent as ever blog Eileen.  And everyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: RCWhiting</title>
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		<dc:creator>RCWhiting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 11:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[.......and people were often &#039;cut&#039; for non-U behaviour.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;&#8230;.and people were often &#8216;cut&#8217; for non-U behaviour&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 07:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many thanks, Orlando, for dropping in @33: we keep saying how good it is when setters do that - but this time it was particularly valuable. &quot;...there is so much going on in so few words.&quot; You can say that again! And I&#039;m glad that, between us, we managed to get most of it. Base = seat just hadn&#039;t occurred to me - and neither had the reference to the novelist Nancy that I *had* heard of! I think it&#039;s true to say that there&#039;s always some &#039;added value&#039; in an Orlando puzzle!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks, Orlando, for dropping in @33: we keep saying how good it is when setters do that &#8211; but this time it was particularly valuable. &#8220;&#8230;there is so much going on in so few words.&#8221; You can say that again! And I&#8217;m glad that, between us, we managed to get most of it. Base = seat just hadn&#8217;t occurred to me &#8211; and neither had the reference to the novelist Nancy that I *had* heard of! I think it&#8217;s true to say that there&#8217;s always some &#8216;added value&#8217; in an Orlando puzzle!</p>
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		<title>By: chas</title>
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		<dc:creator>chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 22:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks to all those who explained &#039;pretend&#039;.
The thing that gets right up my nose is that I am familiar with that meaning of CUT (through my reading of Georgette Heyer) but, silly me, I failed to remember it just when I needed it :(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to all those who explained &#8216;pretend&#8217;.<br />
The thing that gets right up my nose is that I am familiar with that meaning of CUT (through my reading of Georgette Heyer) but, silly me, I failed to remember it just when I needed it <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Giovanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Giovanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 22:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Orlando and Eileen,

This took some getting in to as I spent the afternoon enjoying a thought-provoking version of Richard III at The Globe - so many layers of meaning were crashing round in my head.

My first thought on 6d was mobile home! Spotting anagrams is not my forte but once solved, it made perfect sense!

Giovanna x]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Orlando and Eileen,</p>
<p>This took some getting in to as I spent the afternoon enjoying a thought-provoking version of Richard III at The Globe &#8211; so many layers of meaning were crashing round in my head.</p>
<p>My first thought on 6d was mobile home! Spotting anagrams is not my forte but once solved, it made perfect sense!</p>
<p>Giovanna x</p>
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		<title>By: Orlando</title>
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		<dc:creator>Orlando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 21:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you to Eileen for an excellent blog (as always) and to all who have commented.

Re 6 down - Family-style base? 
I&#039;m glad that many solvers seem to have liked this clue. I thought of it as an anagram &amp; lit, with &#039;base&#039; as the anagrind, and the whole clue being a whimsical definition punning on &#039;mafia-style&#039; = &#039;family&#039; and &#039;base&#039; = &#039;seat&#039;. What pleased me most about it is that there is so much going on in so few words. Multum in parvo, as Eileen would say.

Re 26 down &#039;Friends of Nancy the novelist&#039;
I must confess that I wasn&#039;t thinking of the novelist Nancy Amis, but I&#039;m glad that some solvers have found in the clue more than I consciously intended! What I did have in mind - as &quot;added value&quot; for the clue - was Nancy Mitford who lived in France and would have had many French friends. As well as being the author of &quot;Love in a Cold Climate&quot; and other novels, she popularised the terms U and non-U, which have since proved so useful for crossword setters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you to Eileen for an excellent blog (as always) and to all who have commented.</p>
<p>Re 6 down &#8211; Family-style base?<br />
I&#8217;m glad that many solvers seem to have liked this clue. I thought of it as an anagram &amp; lit, with &#8216;base&#8217; as the anagrind, and the whole clue being a whimsical definition punning on &#8216;mafia-style&#8217; = &#8216;family&#8217; and &#8216;base&#8217; = &#8216;seat&#8217;. What pleased me most about it is that there is so much going on in so few words. Multum in parvo, as Eileen would say.</p>
<p>Re 26 down &#8216;Friends of Nancy the novelist&#8217;<br />
I must confess that I wasn&#8217;t thinking of the novelist Nancy Amis, but I&#8217;m glad that some solvers have found in the clue more than I consciously intended! What I did have in mind &#8211; as &#8220;added value&#8221; for the clue &#8211; was Nancy Mitford who lived in France and would have had many French friends. As well as being the author of &#8220;Love in a Cold Climate&#8221; and other novels, she popularised the terms U and non-U, which have since proved so useful for crossword setters.</p>
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		<title>By: RCWhiting</title>
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		<dc:creator>RCWhiting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 21:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[chas
Back in the 1930s it was a common expression in certain middle-class circles. If you considered someone had offended you and you considered yourself socially superior you would &#039;cut&#039; them by failing to recognise their presence or pretend they are not there.
It was a serious matter amongst such people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chas<br />
Back in the 1930s it was a common expression in certain middle-class circles. If you considered someone had offended you and you considered yourself socially superior you would &#8216;cut&#8217; them by failing to recognise their presence or pretend they are not there.<br />
It was a serious matter amongst such people.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan (not that one)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan (not that one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 21:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[chas @19

It&#039;s a Double Definition of cut.

&quot;saw&quot; is fairly obvious

and &quot;pretend not to see&quot; as in to cut someone dead i.e. not recognise on purpose!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chas @19</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a Double Definition of cut.</p>
<p>&#8220;saw&#8221; is fairly obvious</p>
<p>and &#8220;pretend not to see&#8221; as in to cut someone dead i.e. not recognise on purpose!</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 21:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi chas

CUT = &#039;pretend not to see&#039;, as in &#039;s/he cut me dead&#039;, or, in Chambers&#039; rather po-faced definition: &#039;to pass intentionally without greeting&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi chas</p>
<p>CUT = &#8216;pretend not to see&#8217;, as in &#8216;s/he cut me dead&#8217;, or, in Chambers&#8217; rather po-faced definition: &#8216;to pass intentionally without greeting&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: chas</title>
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		<dc:creator>chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 21:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks to Eileen for the blog.

On 18a: I had C-T and eventually thought of &#039;saw&#039; as a verb meaning CUT. What part does &#039;pretend&#039; play here?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Eileen for the blog.</p>
<p>On 18a: I had C-T and eventually thought of &#8216;saw&#8217; as a verb meaning CUT. What part does &#8216;pretend&#8217; play here?</p>
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