Comments on: Independent 8044 / Klingsor

By: Klingsor

Klingsor — Thu, 26 Jul 2012 20:52:34 +0000

No need at all to apologise! I hope all illnesses have cleared up now, and once again thank you for an excellent and clear analysis of the puzzle. Good night all.

By: Bertandjoyce

Bertandjoyce — Thu, 26 Jul 2012 19:05:51 +0000

Sorry Klingsor, that was a typo. Bert completed it and Joyce has been ill so it wasn’t checked over. Anyway, Bert says that there is only one ‘w’ in his life!

Thanks for dropping by!

By: Klingsor

Klingsor — Thu, 26 Jul 2012 18:48:46 +0000

Many thanks for the excellent blog, Bert and Joyce. In 2 down the replaced W actually represents “women” itself (it’s in Chambers)- other than that, spot on. Thanks to all for the comments too. I’m glad nobody noticed that I rather sloppily used “arrest” as a container indicator in two clues – I have only just spotted it myself!

By: Dormouse

Dormouse — Thu, 26 Jul 2012 18:18:11 +0000

This wasn’t plain sailing for me, either. In the end I needed electronic help with 14ac, 25ac, and 20dn. Really annoyed about the first, as I did know the kitchen was a name for the percussion section. But I don’t think I’d head of “Edale” or “cicely”. And in 13ac, I don’t think I’ve ever come across “tell” meaning a hill. But I had heard of Tori Spelling so 26ac was easy.

15dn and 24ac both brought a smile to my face when I finally got them.

By: allan_c

allan_c — Thu, 26 Jul 2012 16:05:52 +0000

Not one of my best shots at a Klingsor; quite a bit of electronic help required.
Yes, some nice misdirections. For example, having passed on 9a, I got ENNUI immediately for 12a and thought it must be a homophone (‘you said’ in the clue) of 9a. But ‘Anouilh’ (French playwright) of course hasn’t enough letters and no way could it fit the clue anyhow.

By: Kathryn's Dad

Kathryn's Dad — Thu, 26 Jul 2012 16:00:55 +0000

Thanks for the blog, although ‘reasonably easy’ wouldn’t necessarily be my experience. I nearly managed it, but got stuck eventually in the NE corner.

I liked REPERCUSSION, if for no other reason than I finally remembered the ‘kitchen’/'percussion’ link, but was frustrated at getting AIREDALE last. A bit of too much knowledge being a dangerous thing, since I live in the beautiful county of Derbyshire and was convinced that it ended, rather than started, in AIR. And of course PIKEHALL also fitted nicely (naff all to do with the cryptic definition, but my brain – such as it is – works in mysterious ways).

Enjoyed the bits I did solve, so thank you to Klingsor.

By: flashling

flashling — Thu, 26 Jul 2012 15:44:05 +0000

Bah couldn’t get Satori, so well played Klingsor and thanks to B&J for explaining it.

By: rowland

rowland — Thu, 26 Jul 2012 15:22:46 +0000

I found this hard too, a bit flat for some reason, and I couldn’t get into it. But coming to Bert & Joyce’s blog this afty has shown where Rowly Slowly went wrong, and not anyone else.

Thanks to Klingsor for a tough workout.

By: anax

anax — Thu, 26 Jul 2012 14:17:12 +0000

Hmm – quite odd. I’m not disagreeing with you, Sil, but my solving experience of this was quite different (as we all are, of course). For me, this was probably the best Klingsor I’ve solved so far; loads of beautifully constructed clues full of imagination and wit and, really, not a single instance of clunkiness.

Occasionally, after solving, one can pinpoint the best clues and see how they were almost certainly seeds around which the rest of the puzzle was constructed, but I certainly couldn’t do that with this effort – it was pretty much seamless throughout.

A nice fat 10/10 from me.

By: Sil van den Hoek

Sil van den Hoek — Thu, 26 Jul 2012 14:03:47 +0000

The prize for S&E, of course …