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	<title>Comments on: Guardian 25,710 &#8211; Gordius</title>
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	<description>Never knowingly undersolved.</description>
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		<title>By: Huw Powell</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/08/09/guardian-25710/#comment-204377</link>
		<dc:creator>Huw Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2012 21:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Uhudla @ 36, how you post on here and yet not find the cryptics on the papers&#039; websites?  Or did you use the (snail) mail to contribute your post, too?

Which reminds me, apropos of nothing, wouldn&#039;t it be nice if the blogs included a link to the puzzle?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uhudla @ 36, how you post on here and yet not find the cryptics on the papers&#8217; websites?  Or did you use the (snail) mail to contribute your post, too?</p>
<p>Which reminds me, apropos of nothing, wouldn&#8217;t it be nice if the blogs included a link to the puzzle?</p>
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		<title>By: Uhudla</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/08/09/guardian-25710/#comment-202812</link>
		<dc:creator>Uhudla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2012 05:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry to be so tardy, but for me, cryptics are a once-a-week treat when the Weekly comes in the mail. 

I was happy to be able to solve this with brainpower alone -- which means it wasn&#039;t very difficult -- but I couldn&#039;t parse 18 until I came here. I had thought &quot;one gets lit up&quot; referred to ONE containing RIF reversed, and wondered if RIF was an anglicism for LIT.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to be so tardy, but for me, cryptics are a once-a-week treat when the Weekly comes in the mail. </p>
<p>I was happy to be able to solve this with brainpower alone &#8212; which means it wasn&#8217;t very difficult &#8212; but I couldn&#8217;t parse 18 until I came here. I had thought &#8220;one gets lit up&#8221; referred to ONE containing RIF reversed, and wondered if RIF was an anglicism for LIT.</p>
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		<title>By: Rolf</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/08/09/guardian-25710/#comment-201999</link>
		<dc:creator>Rolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2012 07:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All this ranting about accents in respect of 20 down is a load
of 10 across.

Personally I don&#039;t *have* an accent; being originally from Canada
I speak perfect (unaccented) English.  But I still saw the answer
to 20 down almost as soon as I&#039;d read the clue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this ranting about accents in respect of 20 down is a load<br />
of 10 across.</p>
<p>Personally I don&#8217;t *have* an accent; being originally from Canada<br />
I speak perfect (unaccented) English.  But I still saw the answer<br />
to 20 down almost as soon as I&#8217;d read the clue.</p>
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		<title>By: RCWhiting</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/08/09/guardian-25710/#comment-200742</link>
		<dc:creator>RCWhiting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 23:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[.....and obviously a while in the US.........]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;..and obviously a while in the US&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan (not that one)</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/08/09/guardian-25710/#comment-200740</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan (not that one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 22:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[rho @31

My background is born in Lancashire, working class.

University educated. Lived in Yorkshire 10 years, Stuttgart 10 years, Cumbria 3 years, Lancashire 30 years. Various other counties/countries 1 year each.

I don&#039;t consider &quot;posh&quot; as derogatory at all. Merely a factual statement of someone&#039;s accent or behaviour. 

But all this is beside the point. No matter how many syllables you pronounce skewer with it still puzzles me how a solver, who is after all aware that dialects exist, cannot see that &quot;&#039;s cure&quot; is a potential homophone?

I do apologise to any posters who I have offended with my &quot;posh&quot; slur though I have been labelled as such by many childhood friends in later life and have personally taken no offense! (Quite the contrary as none was intended!)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rho @31</p>
<p>My background is born in Lancashire, working class.</p>
<p>University educated. Lived in Yorkshire 10 years, Stuttgart 10 years, Cumbria 3 years, Lancashire 30 years. Various other counties/countries 1 year each.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t consider &#8220;posh&#8221; as derogatory at all. Merely a factual statement of someone&#8217;s accent or behaviour. </p>
<p>But all this is beside the point. No matter how many syllables you pronounce skewer with it still puzzles me how a solver, who is after all aware that dialects exist, cannot see that &#8220;&#8216;s cure&#8221; is a potential homophone?</p>
<p>I do apologise to any posters who I have offended with my &#8220;posh&#8221; slur though I have been labelled as such by many childhood friends in later life and have personally taken no offense! (Quite the contrary as none was intended!)</p>
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		<title>By: RCWhiting</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/08/09/guardian-25710/#comment-200697</link>
		<dc:creator>RCWhiting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 16:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[rho @31
I agree with 99% of your post. However the comparison is &#039;s cure with skewer.
I have already explained my view as a non-posh in @20.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rho @31<br />
I agree with 99% of your post. However the comparison is &#8216;s cure with skewer.<br />
I have already explained my view as a non-posh in @20.</p>
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		<title>By: rhotician</title>
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		<dc:creator>rhotician</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 10:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brendan(not that one): I, like others here, pronounce cure as one syllable and skewer as two. I am not &quot;posh&quot;. I suspect that most of the posters here, including even Thomas99, do not regard themselves as &quot;posh&quot;.

I rarely use the word posh. In my experience it is more often than not used in a derogatory way, especially against people who &quot;talk posh&quot;.

You clearly do not regard yourself as posh. Perhaps you could describe your accent in more detail, by region for example or by class perhaps. I know people who would pronounce both cure and skewer with one syllable, and others who would pronounce both with two.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brendan(not that one): I, like others here, pronounce cure as one syllable and skewer as two. I am not &#8220;posh&#8221;. I suspect that most of the posters here, including even Thomas99, do not regard themselves as &#8220;posh&#8221;.</p>
<p>I rarely use the word posh. In my experience it is more often than not used in a derogatory way, especially against people who &#8220;talk posh&#8221;.</p>
<p>You clearly do not regard yourself as posh. Perhaps you could describe your accent in more detail, by region for example or by class perhaps. I know people who would pronounce both cure and skewer with one syllable, and others who would pronounce both with two.</p>
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		<title>By: jude</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/08/09/guardian-25710/#comment-200624</link>
		<dc:creator>jude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 08:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here in &quot;Cameron County&quot; score, your and cure all rhyme. Makes a nonsense of synthetic phonics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in &#8220;Cameron County&#8221; score, your and cure all rhyme. Makes a nonsense of synthetic phonics.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/08/09/guardian-25710/#comment-200622</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 07:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There was definitely a link or tribute to Jamaica here (Usain Bolt et al) in this one. 

Sweet Potato, Green Peppers..
Grease (Greece) Lightning...
(Varnish) - Vanish ... (into) Thin Air
Aileron
Beacon (Bacon as pronounced is Jamaica)
B.on-fire
Ensue

etc etc..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was definitely a link or tribute to Jamaica here (Usain Bolt et al) in this one. </p>
<p>Sweet Potato, Green Peppers..<br />
Grease (Greece) Lightning&#8230;<br />
(Varnish) &#8211; Vanish &#8230; (into) Thin Air<br />
Aileron<br />
Beacon (Bacon as pronounced is Jamaica)<br />
B.on-fire<br />
Ensue</p>
<p>etc etc..</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan (not that one)</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/08/09/guardian-25710/#comment-200618</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan (not that one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 07:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[rhotician, please explain what is insulting in “RPers/posh folk”?!!!!

It was a genuine query as I cannot imagine a way of pronouncing &quot;Doctor&#039;s cure&quot; which doesn&#039;t sound like &quot;skewer&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rhotician, please explain what is insulting in “RPers/posh folk”?!!!!</p>
<p>It was a genuine query as I cannot imagine a way of pronouncing &#8220;Doctor&#8217;s cure&#8221; which doesn&#8217;t sound like &#8220;skewer&#8221;</p>
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