Comments on: Azed No 2098: Classical values http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/08/26/azed-no-2098-classical-values/ Never knowingly undersolved. Wed, 19 Jun 2013 16:57:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: bridgesong http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/08/26/azed-no-2098-classical-values/#comment-203377 bridgesong Sun, 26 Aug 2012 15:01:32 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=47903#comment-203377 Stevem @ 9 : you’re right that Chambers doesn’t give YOGIN as a plural, and nor does the OED. I am therefore inclined to accept Matthew’s explanation @ 5 about a misprint in the clue.

]]> By: RCWhiting http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/08/26/azed-no-2098-classical-values/#comment-203368 RCWhiting Sun, 26 Aug 2012 13:31:12 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=47903#comment-203368 There are some wonderful explanations there, but since Chambers does not give ‘yogin’ as a plural there must be an indication (‘one found’) that Sadhus (definitely plural) has to be singularised.
I am less confident about my horsy idea but if the one is doing double duty then ‘yo(u)’ is possible.

]]> By: Norman Hall http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/08/26/azed-no-2098-classical-values/#comment-203351 Norman Hall Sun, 26 Aug 2012 09:26:42 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=47903#comment-203351 I meant YOGIN of course.
YOU=ONE didn’t seem weak at all to me.

]]> By: Norman Hall http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/08/26/azed-no-2098-classical-values/#comment-203349 Norman Hall Sun, 26 Aug 2012 09:24:30 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=47903#comment-203349 Like AJK I put in YOUGIN

YO[U] + GIN
YOU = ONE (impersonal pronoun). Forgo the last letter

]]> By: stevem http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/08/26/azed-no-2098-classical-values/#comment-203345 stevem Sun, 26 Aug 2012 09:02:19 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=47903#comment-203345 I don’t think Chambers gives YOGIN as the plural since it says yogi or yogin (also fem yogini) is “a person who …”. It could be that AZED himeslf was mistaken though I do like sidey’s explanation, especially as I think that one=YOU is a bit weak.

]]> By: AJK http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/08/26/azed-no-2098-classical-values/#comment-203340 AJK Sun, 26 Aug 2012 08:43:03 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=47903#comment-203340 I thought this was a bit of a slog. I put in YO(u)GIN by the way. Today’s puzzle seemed easier.

]]> By: bridgesong http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/08/26/azed-no-2098-classical-values/#comment-203332 bridgesong Sun, 26 Aug 2012 07:55:18 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=47903#comment-203332 Thanks to RCW and Matthew who have I think explained 9 down and 12 across. I had carelessly failed to spot that Chambers gives YOGIN as the plural (I think I was thinking of GURUS).

]]> By: yvains http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/08/26/azed-no-2098-classical-values/#comment-203330 yvains Sun, 26 Aug 2012 07:36:29 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=47903#comment-203330 I’m with Matthew on 9 – really don’t think YOGIS works.

]]> By: Matthew http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/08/26/azed-no-2098-classical-values/#comment-203307 Matthew Sat, 25 Aug 2012 23:56:27 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=47903#comment-203307 The best explanation I could come up with for the wordplay in 9d was YO(u),GIN using one=YOU. This would apparently require either Sadhu’s or Sahdu instead of Sahdus, although Collins does give YOGIN as a plural of YOGI.

]]> By: sidey http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/08/26/azed-no-2098-classical-values/#comment-203306 sidey Sat, 25 Aug 2012 23:54:39 +0000 http://fifteensquared.net/?p=47903#comment-203306 I think 9d is one of Azed’s odd clues where SADHUS has two possible answers, YOGINS and YOGIS. You get the correct one by forgoing the last (of) strong drink, in this case the N of GIN. A bit convoluted but I think I remember this device being used before.

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