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	<title>Comments on: Independent 8083 by Nimrod</title>
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	<description>Never knowingly undersolved.</description>
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		<title>By: JollySwagman</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/09/10/independent-8083-by-nimrod/#comment-204971</link>
		<dc:creator>JollySwagman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 02:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Enjoyable solve - the Nimrod pleasure without the Nimrod pain. I wondered whether he had consciously watered it down a bit but there was still plenty to chew on and savour.

Thanks for the blog Neal but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s fair to use the word unfair lightly.

If you have a personal dislike for a setter&#039;s style, fine - say so - that&#039;s another matter - but I don&#039;t thing it&#039;s fair to make a broadside criticism of a setter without justifying it with specific examples. Nimrod clues are often tough but rarely if ever unfair - in fact one (only one) of his trademarks is the clue that appears at first sight to be chatty and overwordy but on later inspection turns out to be 100% watertight and free of redundancy.

Here I found 8th for August fairly obvious - NASA from Curiosity less so, not being a space-probe geek, but I presumed my guess to be correct.

Anyway - many thanks to both - it was fun and didn&#039;t take too long (for once).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enjoyable solve &#8211; the Nimrod pleasure without the Nimrod pain. I wondered whether he had consciously watered it down a bit but there was still plenty to chew on and savour.</p>
<p>Thanks for the blog Neal but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s fair to use the word unfair lightly.</p>
<p>If you have a personal dislike for a setter&#8217;s style, fine &#8211; say so &#8211; that&#8217;s another matter &#8211; but I don&#8217;t thing it&#8217;s fair to make a broadside criticism of a setter without justifying it with specific examples. Nimrod clues are often tough but rarely if ever unfair &#8211; in fact one (only one) of his trademarks is the clue that appears at first sight to be chatty and overwordy but on later inspection turns out to be 100% watertight and free of redundancy.</p>
<p>Here I found 8th for August fairly obvious &#8211; NASA from Curiosity less so, not being a space-probe geek, but I presumed my guess to be correct.</p>
<p>Anyway &#8211; many thanks to both &#8211; it was fun and didn&#8217;t take too long (for once).</p>
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		<title>By: Dormouse</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/09/10/independent-8083-by-nimrod/#comment-204966</link>
		<dc:creator>Dormouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 22:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Definitely not my day for crossword solving.  After several attempts and only getting a couple of clues, finally seemed to make a start late in the day - end then dried up again.  Thought I&#039;d be better employed reading a book at that point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely not my day for crossword solving.  After several attempts and only getting a couple of clues, finally seemed to make a start late in the day &#8211; end then dried up again.  Thought I&#8217;d be better employed reading a book at that point.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul B</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/09/10/independent-8083-by-nimrod/#comment-204959</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 18:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The mysterious non-blogging continues.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mysterious non-blogging continues.</p>
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		<title>By: allan_c</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/09/10/independent-8083-by-nimrod/#comment-204948</link>
		<dc:creator>allan_c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I doubt if rowland&#039;s comment (#4) was meant as a direct criticism of today&#039;s blog, but whilst it is nice to have the clues repeated in the blog I don&#039;t think it&#039;s something we can expect as of right.  The bloggers are a varied bunch of people, some of them obviously with jobs to hold down, and the amount of time they have to devote to blogging varies accordingly.  And they don&#039;t get paid for it either.  If there&#039;s a need to check back to the clues there&#039;s little problem if you do the dead tree version, and online there&#039;s always crossword solver.
Btw I&#039;m not a blogger commenting under another name.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt if rowland&#8217;s comment (#4) was meant as a direct criticism of today&#8217;s blog, but whilst it is nice to have the clues repeated in the blog I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s something we can expect as of right.  The bloggers are a varied bunch of people, some of them obviously with jobs to hold down, and the amount of time they have to devote to blogging varies accordingly.  And they don&#8217;t get paid for it either.  If there&#8217;s a need to check back to the clues there&#8217;s little problem if you do the dead tree version, and online there&#8217;s always crossword solver.<br />
Btw I&#8217;m not a blogger commenting under another name.</p>
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		<title>By: flashling</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/09/10/independent-8083-by-nimrod/#comment-204947</link>
		<dc:creator>flashling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Eileen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Eileen.</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/09/10/independent-8083-by-nimrod/#comment-204945</link>
		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi flashling

The Anax birthday puzzle is here: http://bigdave44.com/crosswords/ntspp-135/ - a tad harder than this one, you might say, and well worth a go!

Many thanks to Neal - and to Nimrod for another great puzzle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi flashling</p>
<p>The Anax birthday puzzle is here: <a href="http://bigdave44.com/crosswords/ntspp-135/" rel="nofollow">http://bigdave44.com/crosswords/ntspp-135/</a> &#8211; a tad harder than this one, you might say, and well worth a go!</p>
<p>Many thanks to Neal &#8211; and to Nimrod for another great puzzle.</p>
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		<title>By: flashling</title>
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		<dc:creator>flashling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I found the quiptic in the Guardian tougher to complete than this, seeing Nimrod as a monday setter was a bit of a shock and wondered if it was the Anax celebratory puzzle, if it is it&#039;s too subtle for me!

Thanks Neal, Nimrods are never easy to solve or blog.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found the quiptic in the Guardian tougher to complete than this, seeing Nimrod as a monday setter was a bit of a shock and wondered if it was the Anax celebratory puzzle, if it is it&#8217;s too subtle for me!</p>
<p>Thanks Neal, Nimrods are never easy to solve or blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Gervase</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gervase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Neal.

I&#039;m not a regular Indy solver, but today&#039;s Guardian blog has not appeared and I thought I would try the Nimrod, as comments had already appeared.  And I know this setter as Enigmatist in the Grauniad; his puzzles are never a walk in the park, but a rewarding challenge.  

This was typically good fun, with some complex and amusing wordplay.  The ingenious cryptic definitions are characteristic (&#039;mess about by the sea&#039; - the crossing letters made &#039;the 8th&#039; perfectly acceptable for me, though I needed the G and the O to solve the clue).  USE-BY DATE is splendid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Neal.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a regular Indy solver, but today&#8217;s Guardian blog has not appeared and I thought I would try the Nimrod, as comments had already appeared.  And I know this setter as Enigmatist in the Grauniad; his puzzles are never a walk in the park, but a rewarding challenge.  </p>
<p>This was typically good fun, with some complex and amusing wordplay.  The ingenious cryptic definitions are characteristic (&#8216;mess about by the sea&#8217; &#8211; the crossing letters made &#8216;the 8th&#8217; perfectly acceptable for me, though I needed the G and the O to solve the clue).  USE-BY DATE is splendid.</p>
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		<title>By: Donk</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/09/10/independent-8083-by-nimrod/#comment-204940</link>
		<dc:creator>Donk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thoroughly enjoyable puzzle, many thanks to Nimrod and also to NealH for explaining a few that I couldn&#039;t quite fathom myself. A solid challenge for me, but very rewarding with many excellent clues - absolute favourites being 13a, 1d and 22d.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thoroughly enjoyable puzzle, many thanks to Nimrod and also to NealH for explaining a few that I couldn&#8217;t quite fathom myself. A solid challenge for me, but very rewarding with many excellent clues &#8211; absolute favourites being 13a, 1d and 22d.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn's Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn's Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many thanks, Neal.

On discovering who the setter was, my version of &#039;urrgh&#039; and &#039;oh heck&#039; was &#039;chuffing nora&#039;; but the solving experience was the same.  I wouldn&#039;t exactly say it was Nimrod-lite, but with a bit of perseverance it was gettable, and fun.  I liked GUANO and USE-BY DATE especially; and although TASSELLY was a bit left-field, I thought that was a good one too.

Thanks to Dr H for the entertainment this morning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks, Neal.</p>
<p>On discovering who the setter was, my version of &#8216;urrgh&#8217; and &#8216;oh heck&#8217; was &#8216;chuffing nora&#8217;; but the solving experience was the same.  I wouldn&#8217;t exactly say it was Nimrod-lite, but with a bit of perseverance it was gettable, and fun.  I liked GUANO and USE-BY DATE especially; and although TASSELLY was a bit left-field, I thought that was a good one too.</p>
<p>Thanks to Dr H for the entertainment this morning.</p>
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