Guardian 25,739 by Paul
Posted by flashling on September 12th, 2012
Paul isn’t suffering from writer’s block today…
Not Paul’s hardest or rudest but I can’t suss out 18 properly so suggestions welcome. [Note the clue was changed later to be: Attendants semi-dressed, including daughter in plaits ]
Being brought to Book – er…
| Across | ||
| 4 | BARKER | Double definition, Clive or Paul possibly no, a different one, Pat or possibly Nicola maybe |
| 6 | ISHIGURO | IS + HI + GUR(u) + O(ld) |
| 9 | ATWOOD | A + TWO +O.D. |
| 10 | MIGRATOR | MIG + RAT + OR |
| 11 | DAIRY CATTLE | [DIRECTLY AT A]* |
| 15 | RUSHDIE | RUSH + DIE |
| 17 | NAIPAUL | [IN A]* + PAUL (the setter…) |
| 18 | BRIDESMAIDS | Can’t get this to work, it’s (IDE + SM(ocks)) in BRAIDS, go=DIE but the order’s wrong.
Second version is (D in SEMI*) in BRAIDS |
| 22 | SOMBRERO | SOMBRE + OR rev |
| 23 | BERGER | sounds like “burger” |
| 24 | DISTASTE | (eviden)T in DISASTE(r) |
| 25 | BARNES | sounds like “barns” |
| Down | ||
| 1 | BETONY | ETON in BY (near), aka STACHYS |
| 2 | ASSISTANCE | SS in [CAT IN SEA]* |
| 3 | DISRAELI | (IS + (b)R(e)A(d)) in DELI |
| 4 | BLADDERS | B(eer) + LADDERS |
| 5 | ROWDIEST | (revie)W in EDITORS* |
| 7 | UP TO | (fo)U(r) + OPT* |
| 8 | OKRI | Hidden in (to)OK RI(sks) |
| 12 | AMELIORATE | [MATERIAL O(n)E]* |
| 13 | CAVING IN | AC rev + VIN + GIN |
| 14 | ALL-SORTS | [L(uton) + LSO] in ARTS |
| 16 | DOBERMAN | DO + MA in BERN |
| 19 | MCEWAN | M(1)CE + WAN |
| 20 | USED | (sodok)U (i)S (don)E (an)D |
| 21 | AMIS | AMIS(s) |
*anagram
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September 12th, 2012 at 1:35 am
Thanks, flashling.
Pat BARKER at 4a, I think. They’re all Booker Prize winners.
It’s dodgy homophone time! John BERGER’S name rhymes with verger. It doesn’t have a hard G.
All good fun. BLADDERS my last in, and it made me laugh.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:40 am
Thanks flashling.
18ac – there have been a couple of mistakes in recent crosswords, could this be another?
Could the intention be “ride + sm” for “go with sm(ocks)” inside “braids” – but the “r” has been used twice, mistakenly, if you see what I mean.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:41 am
18: I thought it was RIDE (go) + SM(ocks) in BRAIDS, but now I see that’s an R too many!
September 12th, 2012 at 1:42 am
Sorry, EB – I should have refreshed the page before commenting again.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:52 am
Thanks, flashling. Dredged these writers up with relative ease, which surprised me.
I fear EB @2 is right. (I’d be very happy if both of us were wrong.) I see Shed came on the blog late yesterday to own up but perhaps this is a new style for the Guardian cryptic, the deliberate error?
What’s “number” doing in 11, apart from making a better surface?
September 12th, 2012 at 1:52 am
@Miche
Ha – no problem – “great minds think alike” as they say; but there’s also “fools seldom differ” – not sure what applies here but it does look like a mistake to me. Flashling’s use of an anagram of “ide” doesn’t work as he (she? – sorry don’t know) says and anyway there is no anagram indicator as far as I can see.
September 12th, 2012 at 7:54 am
Hello all, first time posting.
18a: beware the ides of March!
September 12th, 2012 at 7:58 am
Not sure if I’ve been too cryptic – 3rd March is the Ides, so ‘braids’ around ‘idesm’ to get ‘bridesmaids’
September 12th, 2012 at 7:59 am
@3 is the intended parsing I think. But, as you say …
September 12th, 2012 at 8:05 am
Almost thought I’d messed up by forgetting the smocks, but a bit of googling showed bridesmaids wear them these days.
September 12th, 2012 at 8:15 am
@JudithF – nice ide(a), but the Ides are the 13th/15th.
September 12th, 2012 at 8:39 am
Not very enjoyable – finished OK with considerable use of Google, but “writer” is really too loose a definition, in my opinion.
September 12th, 2012 at 9:02 am
Oh dear. How embarrassing.
September 12th, 2012 at 9:32 am
Thanks, flashling.
I’m saying nothing about mistakes today. [Hugh has apologised on the Guardian thread for 'the redundant R'.]
Did no one else confidently start off with SETTER for 4ac, before looking at the rest of the clues?
September 12th, 2012 at 9:47 am
I pencilled “setter” in too!
September 12th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Ditto Eileen. I also very briefly thought 5D might be wordiest which I thought amusing for a most unruly editor.
September 12th, 2012 at 10:10 am
Thank you Flashling.
Eileen @14 ‘fraid so.
Become a bit inured to error recently so blithely accepted BRIDESMAIDS as being just one more.
Loved the construction of MIGRATOR and MCEWAN.
For Paul to find a way to patiently steer an ignoramus like me to all these unknown authors is a triumph on his part, not mine.
Really enjoying Paul’s puzzles these days, more please.
September 12th, 2012 at 10:42 am
Thanks flashling and Paul
Like Eileen I thought ‘setter’ was a sitting duck for 4a but quickly had to get my brain to work a bit harder.
A difficult crossword in places with some excellent clues, though the error in 18 was annoying. Freud (much reviled these days) was very keen on the way one error seems to precipitate another (he tells of an insulted ‘bottle-scarred’ veteran and the offending newspaper’s apologetic correction to ‘battle-scared’).
I had to check the O.D. after getting Atwood. This was one of a couple of clues where pronunciation cleverly changed in the word-play – the other was in McEwan.
Amis seems to be becoming (like bra and Emin) a too predictable crossword staple.
I liked the unlikely anagram in 11a, and also 17a,4d and many others.
Despite the false dawn of ‘setter’ and troubling 18a, a very entertaining puzzle.
September 12th, 2012 at 10:52 am
Thanks, flashling.
The Guardian seems to be determined to include one error in each puzzle. If we knew this was a deliberate feature it would add some extra interest to the solve. However….
SETTER did cross my mind for 4ac, but seemed unlikely – I got OKRI immediately and thence ISHIGURO, which gave me the Booker theme, although some of the rest proved more elusive. The shortlist for this year’s Man Booker prize was announced yesterday, which makes this puzzle topical.
Like William @17, I enjoyed MIGRATOR and MCEWAN, but my favourite was DAIRY CATTLE for the cleverly hidden anagram (necessitating the inclusion of the word ‘number’ to make the surface grammatical. CATTLE is a singular word for a group, so ‘number of farm animals’ is fine, though clearly just ‘farm animals’ would otherwise have sufficed).
September 12th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Hi JudithF @7
Welcome to 15²!
Re your comments @8 and 13, don’t be too embarrassed to comment again – most of us here make idiots of ourselves from time to time.
September 12th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
Again, I missed today’s mistake – I’ll have to put more effort into that tomorrow.
A number of the themed answers (Ishiguro, Okri, Naipaul) were new to me, but as I think should be expected from such themes, the clueing was perfectly fair.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Not particularly enjoyable with a list of authors to consult, although I knew most.
Thanks flashling; the corrected clue for 18 now reads: ‘Attendants semi-dressed, including daughter in plaits.’
I did like the typically Paulian ‘BLADDERS.’
September 12th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Not the most difficult Paul, and I surprised myself by knowing all the names, which always pleases me with a themed crosswords, as I hate having to solve a clue and then consult the interweb as to whether such a person/thing exists. BLADDERS is brilliant, well I thought so anyway.
Thanks to Paul and flashling too.
Will the Graun be offering a small prize for those of us who spot the errors tomorrow and Friday?
September 12th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
Not the best offering from a very good compiler, it’s bashed into third place today by two very fine puzzles in other places. The mistake doesn’t help at all in that, just makes The Guardian look really slapdash, ‘Writer’s dog’ was ambiguous, and, oh I’m putting the downers on! But I do wish they’d be more careful.
Sorry, I know I’m whingeing,
Rowly.
September 12th, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Thanks all
Some time back I criticised this compiler for what I saw as an inconsistent product.
A number of recent puzzles of a pretty high standard are causing me to change my attitude; this one maintained the improvement.
I got all the writers (but didn’t realise they were all Booker winners) but a lot of names inevitably makes a puzzzle more difficult as one cannot look for common syllables found in non-proper nouns (viz MCE, NAIP, ATW). This was welcomed.
I enjoyed 11 ac for a clever anagram and no complaints (a la @5).
I saw the error (no doubt at all) quickly and ignored it.
Last in was ‘migrator’, another good clue for which vibrator/aviator thoughts held me up.
September 12th, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Thanks, flashling. The topical theme of this puzzle was right up my street and I guessed fairly early on that the writers would all be Booker winners. I still found this quite challenging in places and particularly struggled in the NW corner, with BETONY, BLADDERS and ATWOOD being the last ones in.
Missed today’s deliberate error, as I didn’t bother to work out the wordplay once I saw BRAIDS was containing something…
Seriously dodgy homophone at 23ac. 4dn was classic Paul!
September 12th, 2012 at 6:03 pm
I don’t agree that there is a mistake in 18a.’Go ‘ = die, + ‘sm’.
September 12th, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Sylvia @27; the editor thinks there was a mistake as the clue has been changed – see @22
September 12th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Robi – I should have said ‘ I don’t agree that there was a mistake’, despite the editor!
September 12th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
Ladies and gentlemen,
My apologies for the error. I take responsibility, and will take a little more care in checking in future.
Many thanks for the opportunity to learn from you all.
Have a great day.
John (Paul)
September 12th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Sylvia @29; I’m no expert but if ‘go’=DIE, there seems to be no indication that this should be rearranged from IDE in BR(IDE){SM}AIDS. Is that what you meant?
September 12th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Paul @30; thanks for dropping by and clarifying things.
September 12th, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Does the Guardian have an crossword editor these days?
September 12th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
Rorschach @33; he did have the grace to apologise: ‘My humble apologies for the redundant R in the parsing of 18 ac.
HUGH’
September 12th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
RCWhiting @ 25. I had similar thoughts too, but could only in the end come up with TITrator, which didn’t fit the definition no matter how hard I tried.
I had stupidly mispelled Ishiguru, so thought 8d was URIS (almost RISK?), which didn’t fit with TITRATOR either.
Otherwise no problems.
September 12th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
I struggled awhile, Also having confidently entered setter.
2d finally convinced me that setter was incorrect leading to “Barker”. Not long after finding “Barnes” gave the Booker connection away so the rest was pretty much a write in.
I was post the “error” so was working with the amended clue.
Enjoyable crossword from Paul as ever.
September 13th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Robi – My apologies! I couldn’t see the wood for the trees. I was wrong to jump to this conclusion.