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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/09/19/guardian-25745-orlando/#comment-205772</link>
		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi yvains

Apologies for the delay - I&#039;ve been out since lunchtime. I&#039;ve replied on the Crucible blog. ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi yvains</p>
<p>Apologies for the delay &#8211; I&#8217;ve been out since lunchtime. I&#8217;ve replied on the Crucible blog. <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: yvains</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/09/19/guardian-25745-orlando/#comment-205759</link>
		<dc:creator>yvains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 13:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Eileen: It looks as if you must be singling out my (the first) comment on the first edition of scchua&#039;s blog this morning. I must have inadvertently broken a rule, and if so, I am genuinely sorry (and will also apologise to scchua).

That said, I honestly don&#039;t understand what the rule is, or why my posting on scchua&#039;s blog was wrong, while subsequent comments apparently weren&#039;t. Please believe me when I say that I&#039;m not being sarcastic, but genuinely mystified (as by &quot;And that&#039;s not all I was referring to in my comment 13.&quot;) The last thing I want to do is offend anyone, and offending someone accidentally is almost worse than doing it on purpose.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Eileen: It looks as if you must be singling out my (the first) comment on the first edition of scchua&#8217;s blog this morning. I must have inadvertently broken a rule, and if so, I am genuinely sorry (and will also apologise to scchua).</p>
<p>That said, I honestly don&#8217;t understand what the rule is, or why my posting on scchua&#8217;s blog was wrong, while subsequent comments apparently weren&#8217;t. Please believe me when I say that I&#8217;m not being sarcastic, but genuinely mystified (as by &#8220;And that&#8217;s not all I was referring to in my comment 13.&#8221;) The last thing I want to do is offend anyone, and offending someone accidentally is almost worse than doing it on purpose.</p>
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		<title>By: rowland</title>
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		<dc:creator>rowland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 12:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good! I think you have really worn this one out, done it to death &amp;c, and I agree totally with Eileen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good! I think you have really worn this one out, done it to death &amp;c, and I agree totally with Eileen.</p>
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		<title>By: rhotician</title>
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		<dc:creator>rhotician</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have pursued the topic because I think errors in Chambers are an important matter, more so than our taste for Tramp&#039;s clueing style. However I have said all I want to now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have pursued the topic because I think errors in Chambers are an important matter, more so than our taste for Tramp&#8217;s clueing style. However I have said all I want to now.</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/09/19/guardian-25745-orlando/#comment-205719</link>
		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know why this topic is still being pursued - particularly  on this blog: it was done to death on Tuesday. [And that&#039;s not all I was referring to in my comment 13.]

If Gaufrid, our moderator, were not in hospital, he would have ended it before now - as he would have deleted the first spoiler comment on scchua&#039;s Placeholder post for today&#039;s puzzle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why this topic is still being pursued &#8211; particularly  on this blog: it was done to death on Tuesday. [And that's not all I was referring to in my comment 13.]</p>
<p>If Gaufrid, our moderator, were not in hospital, he would have ended it before now &#8211; as he would have deleted the first spoiler comment on scchua&#8217;s Placeholder post for today&#8217;s puzzle.</p>
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		<title>By: rhotician</title>
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		<dc:creator>rhotician</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[See also  &#039;play with&#039; in the entry for &#039;play&#039; where the definition is unambigous and accurate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See also  &#8216;play with&#8217; in the entry for &#8216;play&#8217; where the definition is unambigous and accurate.</p>
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		<title>By: rhotician</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/09/19/guardian-25745-orlando/#comment-205713</link>
		<dc:creator>rhotician</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 08:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@29 - The definition is a double entendre. Several posters read it as meaning &#039;masturbate&#039;. Tramp intended this, as a misdirection which, it has to be said, works very well with &quot;blue movie&quot;. Someone at Chambers clearly had the same intention because the entry for &#039;flirt&#039; has no such ambiguity. In the entry for &#039;toy&#039; &quot;to flirt (with)&quot; is enough. &quot;amuse oneself amorously&quot; is ambiguous, superfluous and erroneous. &quot;toy with&quot; can mean &quot;flirt with&quot;, it cannot mean &quot;masturbate with&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@29 &#8211; The definition is a double entendre. Several posters read it as meaning &#8216;masturbate&#8217;. Tramp intended this, as a misdirection which, it has to be said, works very well with &#8220;blue movie&#8221;. Someone at Chambers clearly had the same intention because the entry for &#8216;flirt&#8217; has no such ambiguity. In the entry for &#8216;toy&#8217; &#8220;to flirt (with)&#8221; is enough. &#8220;amuse oneself amorously&#8221; is ambiguous, superfluous and erroneous. &#8220;toy with&#8221; can mean &#8220;flirt with&#8221;, it cannot mean &#8220;masturbate with&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 06:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brilliant Orlando - more Orlando please!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant Orlando &#8211; more Orlando please!</p>
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		<title>By: yvains</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/09/19/guardian-25745-orlando/#comment-205698</link>
		<dc:creator>yvains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 05:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@27 - &quot;She&#039;s only toying with him&quot; &quot;He was toying with her affections&quot; - nothing indecent or erroneous about the definition, that I can see.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@27 &#8211; &#8220;She&#8217;s only toying with him&#8221; &#8220;He was toying with her affections&#8221; &#8211; nothing indecent or erroneous about the definition, that I can see.</p>
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		<title>By: muck</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/09/19/guardian-25745-orlando/#comment-205685</link>
		<dc:creator>muck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 23:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Eileen and Orlando

Quite challenging.
No problem with imp-lore.
I did need the explanation for NI in NICOLA ADAMS]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Eileen and Orlando</p>
<p>Quite challenging.<br />
No problem with imp-lore.<br />
I did need the explanation for NI in NICOLA ADAMS</p>
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