Comments on: Independent 8097 / Crosophile

By: redddevil

redddevil — Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:32:46 +0000

I still can’t see why ‘after’ is required in that clue at all.
It certainly confused me as I went the same route as NealH @8

By: flashling

flashling — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 22:35:50 +0000

Ta Crosophile, about 24 that made me doubt the solution for ages!

By: Crosophile

Crosophile — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 21:31:28 +0000

Thanks to BertandJoyce for the blog and for all the other comments too.
As a mathematician myself I have to agree re 24Ac (origin). I should have written:
Where X might meet Y after heading off for a drink…
Talking of which, time for my hot chocolate. Good night.

By: rowland

rowland — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 12:42:39 +0000

Comfortable it was. Enjoyable solve with COMPLIANCE also standing out for me.

Many thanks all.

Cheers
Rowly.

By: NealH

NealH — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 12:08:44 +0000

I thought this was going to be quite hard, but managed to finish it comfortably over lunch. I didn’t follow the wordplay of 24 since I thought the “heading off” was referring to a word for “after” rather than the “for”.

By: Wanderer

Wanderer — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 11:01:21 +0000

Thanks Crosophile and B&J, I enjoyed this very much.

I got to ORIGIN via chromosomes rather than Cartesian coordinates. Does this work for anyone else? Where the X chromosome meets the Y chromosome is the origin of life? Maybe not, but the graphs never occurred to me.

By: allan_c

allan_c — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 10:15:37 +0000

According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_%28mathematics%29 “in a Cartesian coordinate system, the ORIGIN is the point where the axes of the system intersect” and “the coordinates of the origin are always all zero, for example (0,0) in two dimensions.” – which is how I’ve always interpreted it. Of course there are graphs where the point x=0,y=0 does not appear; the point where the axes intersect is then known as a false origin.

Nice one from Crosophile, with a bit of a European flavour – GENDARME, CANARD, SENORITA, CANNELLONI etc. Favourites were the aforesaid ORIGIN and CANARD, plus MOLECULE.

Thanks, B&J, for the blog and crosophile for the puzzle of course.

By: Bertandjoyce

Bertandjoyce — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 09:49:18 +0000

Thanks Eileen – just about to leave the hotel in Truro but had time to amend the blog!

We also thought about leg-end as foot until we realised that note was then superfluous.

By: Eileen

Eileen — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 09:23:26 +0000

Thanks, B and J, for the blog, and Crosophile for an enjoyable puzzle.

Thanks particularly for the explanation of 24ac: I didn’t even know that meaning of ORIGIN.

Favourite clue: COMPLIANCE – super surface and clever anagram.

Like yvains, I took 19ac as the familiar leg-end = foot but couldn’t really account for the ‘note’ – apart from the question mark.

When first reading through the clues, I was astonished to see ‘poat-prandial request’ as the definition for 19dn – identical to that in Paul’s Guardian 17dn clue yesterday – but with a different answer: ‘postprandial request to perform joke about vacant gay bishop [5,3]‘!

[Just for the record, when you get back - you have a mini-typo in 16dn: end of Mimi = I]

By: yvains

yvains — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 09:01:37 +0000

I interpreted 19 a little more simplistically, as foot=leg-end, but your parsing works better.