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		<title>By: Quixote</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/10/29/independent-8125-by-quixote/#comment-212135</link>
		<dc:creator>Quixote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 07:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Moot point -- very few actual socks go into Oxfords. You&#039;re right -- I played safe!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moot point &#8212; very few actual socks go into Oxfords. You&#8217;re right &#8212; I played safe!</p>
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		<title>By: Wil Ransome</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/10/29/independent-8125-by-quixote/#comment-212078</link>
		<dc:creator>Wil Ransome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 23:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good stuff from nms and the Don as usual — personally I can&#039;t see that there&#039;s a gamekeeper-poacher problem.

I had one question: why in 1dn does Quixote say &#039;Oxford maybe&#039;? This suggests that he is being very careful to be &#039;correct&#039; and avoid a definition by example. But if the clue simply says &#039;one going into Oxford ...&#039; surely that&#039;s perfectly OK. A sock goes into an Oxford, a sock goes into a trainer, a sock goes into a boot, ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good stuff from nms and the Don as usual — personally I can&#8217;t see that there&#8217;s a gamekeeper-poacher problem.</p>
<p>I had one question: why in 1dn does Quixote say &#8216;Oxford maybe&#8217;? This suggests that he is being very careful to be &#8216;correct&#8217; and avoid a definition by example. But if the clue simply says &#8216;one going into Oxford &#8230;&#8217; surely that&#8217;s perfectly OK. A sock goes into an Oxford, a sock goes into a trainer, a sock goes into a boot, &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Quixote</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/10/29/independent-8125-by-quixote/#comment-211991</link>
		<dc:creator>Quixote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 16:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I have a great regard for Niall, I stick to my view. There are many more potential bloggers than setters, and blogs ought not to be (how shall I put it?) incestuous. We don&#039;t want to be like the all-too-cosy literary world in which Martin Amis (say) might write glowing reviews of Julian Barnes&#039;s books (and maybe vice versa). Independent Independent critics fo me, every time -- but I&#039;ll respect the proprietor of the blog if Niall stays on!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I have a great regard for Niall, I stick to my view. There are many more potential bloggers than setters, and blogs ought not to be (how shall I put it?) incestuous. We don&#8217;t want to be like the all-too-cosy literary world in which Martin Amis (say) might write glowing reviews of Julian Barnes&#8217;s books (and maybe vice versa). Independent Independent critics fo me, every time &#8212; but I&#8217;ll respect the proprietor of the blog if Niall stays on!</p>
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		<title>By: flashling</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/10/29/independent-8125-by-quixote/#comment-211972</link>
		<dc:creator>flashling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t really see a conflict Q, if NMS had been reviewing a Raich or Gurney then that would be a different matter.

Back to today, the long anagrams just fell out instantly with no crossing letters and then overall probably in a similar time to NMS.

Thanks both.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really see a conflict Q, if NMS had been reviewing a Raich or Gurney then that would be a different matter.</p>
<p>Back to today, the long anagrams just fell out instantly with no crossing letters and then overall probably in a similar time to NMS.</p>
<p>Thanks both.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn's Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn's Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks to nms for the blog.  I never time myself, but this was a pretty quick solve for me - just right for a Monday morning.  All clearly clued, with the only unfamiliarity being ESCHEATAGE.

I personally don&#039;t have a problem with nms being on the team for blogging the Monday puzzle, and you can never have too many Sunderland fans on 225, can you?   I know not all setters are keen solvers, but as far as I know Niall is, and his blogs are always clear and helpful.  I like the range of bloggers we have for the Indy, since everyone brings his or her own different perspective of that day&#039;s puzzle.

Thanks to Quixote for today&#039;s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to nms for the blog.  I never time myself, but this was a pretty quick solve for me &#8211; just right for a Monday morning.  All clearly clued, with the only unfamiliarity being ESCHEATAGE.</p>
<p>I personally don&#8217;t have a problem with nms being on the team for blogging the Monday puzzle, and you can never have too many Sunderland fans on 225, can you?   I know not all setters are keen solvers, but as far as I know Niall is, and his blogs are always clear and helpful.  I like the range of bloggers we have for the Indy, since everyone brings his or her own different perspective of that day&#8217;s puzzle.</p>
<p>Thanks to Quixote for today&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: crypticsue</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/10/29/independent-8125-by-quixote/#comment-211948</link>
		<dc:creator>crypticsue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I found this slightly trickier than the usual Monday Quixote but can&#039;t really put my finder on why.    Thanks to him and nmsindy too.

I wasn&#039;t even aware that nmsindy was both setter and blogger until I met him back in May.   His blogs  always seem to me to be fair, accurate and as impartial as any other blogger&#039;s work,  and I don&#039;t see any problem with him being on both sides of the &#039;divide&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this slightly trickier than the usual Monday Quixote but can&#8217;t really put my finder on why.    Thanks to him and nmsindy too.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t even aware that nmsindy was both setter and blogger until I met him back in May.   His blogs  always seem to me to be fair, accurate and as impartial as any other blogger&#8217;s work,  and I don&#8217;t see any problem with him being on both sides of the &#8216;divide&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: nmsindy</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/10/29/independent-8125-by-quixote/#comment-211941</link>
		<dc:creator>nmsindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, Quixote, at #1.    As you may remember I was an Indy blogger here before being a setter, and, yes, in those early days, in practice was the &quot;lead blogger&quot; in terms of number of Indy blogs written.    As the site expanded however, this has changed significantly and I now write just one blog every three weeks.  I&#039;m happy to continue with this, esp having been involved with the site from the very start, unless admin felt it was not appropriate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Quixote, at #1.    As you may remember I was an Indy blogger here before being a setter, and, yes, in those early days, in practice was the &#8220;lead blogger&#8221; in terms of number of Indy blogs written.    As the site expanded however, this has changed significantly and I now write just one blog every three weeks.  I&#8217;m happy to continue with this, esp having been involved with the site from the very start, unless admin felt it was not appropriate.</p>
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		<title>By: allan_c</title>
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		<dc:creator>allan_c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not quite as quick as nmsindy (18½ minutes) but nevertheless an enjoyable solve with the long anagrams easily unscrambled.  ESCHEATAGE was new to me but easily got from the wordplay and crossing letters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not quite as quick as nmsindy (18½ minutes) but nevertheless an enjoyable solve with the long anagrams easily unscrambled.  ESCHEATAGE was new to me but easily got from the wordplay and crossing letters.</p>
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		<title>By: Quixote</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/10/29/independent-8125-by-quixote/#comment-211932</link>
		<dc:creator>Quixote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[colleagues, even]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>colleagues, even</p>
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		<title>By: Quixote</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/10/29/independent-8125-by-quixote/#comment-211928</link>
		<dc:creator>Quixote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have always enjoyed Niall&#039;s generosity -- and I thank him here again most warmly. But I wonder whether one can truly be both a poacher and a gamekeeper. I myself comment on other puzzles by coleagues from time to time, but I wonder whether the dual role of setter and lead blogger for the same paper shouldn&#039;t be discouraged?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always enjoyed Niall&#8217;s generosity &#8212; and I thank him here again most warmly. But I wonder whether one can truly be both a poacher and a gamekeeper. I myself comment on other puzzles by coleagues from time to time, but I wonder whether the dual role of setter and lead blogger for the same paper shouldn&#8217;t be discouraged?</p>
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