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		<title>By: PeeDee</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/11/21/independent-8145-by-dac/#comment-215957</link>
		<dc:creator>PeeDee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 20:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with all those who suggest vide is better than Vatican.  I have been trying to alter the blog for hours, but first the fifteensquared server kept failing to respond and my later attemps were from a smartphone which kept changing &#039;vide&#039; to &#039;code&#039; when I tried to type it on the tiny on-screen keyboard.

Pelaham - I didn&#039;t give thought about lavishly, I just accepted it as an anagrind unthinkingly. I believe you are right, it doesn&#039;t really mean mixed-up/reordered in any sense at all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with all those who suggest vide is better than Vatican.  I have been trying to alter the blog for hours, but first the fifteensquared server kept failing to respond and my later attemps were from a smartphone which kept changing &#8216;vide&#8217; to &#8216;code&#8217; when I tried to type it on the tiny on-screen keyboard.</p>
<p>Pelaham &#8211; I didn&#8217;t give thought about lavishly, I just accepted it as an anagrind unthinkingly. I believe you are right, it doesn&#8217;t really mean mixed-up/reordered in any sense at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Pelham Barton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pelham Barton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 19:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Dac for a really enjoyable crossword, PeeDee for the blog, and eimi for explaining the mix-up over different versions of 2dn. My favourite clue was 10ac.

2dn: I am all for imaginative anagram leads, but am not completely convinced that &quot;lavishly&quot; really carries an appropriate meaning. The nearest I can get from &lt;i&gt;Chambers&lt;/i&gt; is &quot;&lt;b&gt;lavish&lt;/b&gt; unrestrained&quot;, which still seems a bit of a stretch to me.

15dn: I too failed to parse this, although the answer was obvious enough. As PeeDee says, if A = about is in &lt;i&gt;Chambers&lt;/i&gt; then Dac is entitled to use it. I have always taken V = see through the Latin &lt;i&gt;vide&lt;/i&gt;, but going through Vatican City works just as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Dac for a really enjoyable crossword, PeeDee for the blog, and eimi for explaining the mix-up over different versions of 2dn. My favourite clue was 10ac.</p>
<p>2dn: I am all for imaginative anagram leads, but am not completely convinced that &#8220;lavishly&#8221; really carries an appropriate meaning. The nearest I can get from <i>Chambers</i> is &#8220;<b>lavish</b> unrestrained&#8221;, which still seems a bit of a stretch to me.</p>
<p>15dn: I too failed to parse this, although the answer was obvious enough. As PeeDee says, if A = about is in <i>Chambers</i> then Dac is entitled to use it. I have always taken V = see through the Latin <i>vide</i>, but going through Vatican City works just as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn's Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn's Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course it would.  I&#039;ll get me coat ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course it would.  I&#8217;ll get me coat &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: PeeDee</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/11/21/independent-8145-by-dac/#comment-215943</link>
		<dc:creator>PeeDee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 17:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kathryn&#039;s Dad - wouldn&#039;t RE&#039;S + STANCE + IS have one too many letter S?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathryn&#8217;s Dad &#8211; wouldn&#8217;t RE&#8217;S + STANCE + IS have one too many letter S?</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn's Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn's Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, PeeDee, for standing in.  The top half went in quickly, then slowed down a bit by the rest.  I too couldn&#039;t really understand VACATION, which was my last one in.  MILLIGAN was a good clue, and I also liked SPRINGFIELD, which I got from both the hints - an advantage of being old but having teenage children, I guess.

For 12dn, we need RE&#039;S plus STANCE with the inclusion of IS, I fancy.  And yes, English is superfluous, but makes for the surface, I suppose.

Good puzzle as always from Dac.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, PeeDee, for standing in.  The top half went in quickly, then slowed down a bit by the rest.  I too couldn&#8217;t really understand VACATION, which was my last one in.  MILLIGAN was a good clue, and I also liked SPRINGFIELD, which I got from both the hints &#8211; an advantage of being old but having teenage children, I guess.</p>
<p>For 12dn, we need RE&#8217;S plus STANCE with the inclusion of IS, I fancy.  And yes, English is superfluous, but makes for the surface, I suppose.</p>
<p>Good puzzle as always from Dac.</p>
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		<title>By: eimi</title>
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		<dc:creator>eimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shazbot! Apologies for cockup at 2 Down. Nimrod alerted me to the use of leader in the clue, so I sought to change &#039;Labour leader&#039; to &#039;lecturer&#039; and informed the Independent of this change. Of course, the online version didn&#039;t get changed at all, which is slightly preferable to the change in the dead tree edition which makes no sense at all now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shazbot! Apologies for cockup at 2 Down. Nimrod alerted me to the use of leader in the clue, so I sought to change &#8216;Labour leader&#8217; to &#8216;lecturer&#8217; and informed the Independent of this change. Of course, the online version didn&#8217;t get changed at all, which is slightly preferable to the change in the dead tree edition which makes no sense at all now.</p>
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		<title>By: Cumbrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cumbrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah - thanks BertandJoyce! V=vide as in qv  -  okay. A=about - hmm, but as PeeDee says fair enough (but grudgingly :-? ) I put vacation in fairly early on, then took it out, then put the crossing letters back in - finally it couldn&#039;t be anything but! Some lovely stuff elsewhere of course - onwards and upwards then.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah &#8211; thanks BertandJoyce! V=vide as in qv  &#8211;  okay. A=about &#8211; hmm, but as PeeDee says fair enough (but grudgingly <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif' alt=':-?' class='wp-smiley' />  ) I put vacation in fairly early on, then took it out, then put the crossing letters back in &#8211; finally it couldn&#8217;t be anything but! Some lovely stuff elsewhere of course &#8211; onwards and upwards then.</p>
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		<title>By: BertandJoyce</title>
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		<dc:creator>BertandJoyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi PeeDee, thanks for standing in for us. It&#039;s late evening for us but we solved the puzzle earlier today but were then without internet access. We guessed it may be Dac - all went quite smoothly and easily until the last one in CASEMATE. We needed some electronic assistance but as soon as we did it leapt out from the list of possibilities.

Cumbrian - We&#039;ll have another go explaining 15d. V (Latin for Vide (see)) + ACTION (as in a court case) around or &#039;packing&#039;  A (about) = holiday. We&#039;ve never been happy about A for about but as PeeDee says, it is in Chambers - so it must be true!!

Thanks Dac.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi PeeDee, thanks for standing in for us. It&#8217;s late evening for us but we solved the puzzle earlier today but were then without internet access. We guessed it may be Dac &#8211; all went quite smoothly and easily until the last one in CASEMATE. We needed some electronic assistance but as soon as we did it leapt out from the list of possibilities.</p>
<p>Cumbrian &#8211; We&#8217;ll have another go explaining 15d. V (Latin for Vide (see)) + ACTION (as in a court case) around or &#8216;packing&#8217;  A (about) = holiday. We&#8217;ve never been happy about A for about but as PeeDee says, it is in Chambers &#8211; so it must be true!!</p>
<p>Thanks Dac.</p>
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		<title>By: Cumbrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cumbrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I normally regard Dac&#039;s puzzles as being within my grasp, but I couldn&#039;t parse 15d, and I still don&#039;t understand it! I don&#039;t seem to be alone, so I won&#039;t get too discouraged.

Saiga and casemate were new to me but not a problem to derive from the clues, and I&#039;m not au fait with The Simpsons so I didn&#039;t see the Springfield connection; however I am of an age to remember Dusty, so one out of two was all it took. 

Thanks for the blog, and a nice crossword from Dac.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I normally regard Dac&#8217;s puzzles as being within my grasp, but I couldn&#8217;t parse 15d, and I still don&#8217;t understand it! I don&#8217;t seem to be alone, so I won&#8217;t get too discouraged.</p>
<p>Saiga and casemate were new to me but not a problem to derive from the clues, and I&#8217;m not au fait with The Simpsons so I didn&#8217;t see the Springfield connection; however I am of an age to remember Dusty, so one out of two was all it took. </p>
<p>Thanks for the blog, and a nice crossword from Dac.</p>
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		<title>By: rowland</title>
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		<dc:creator>rowland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 13:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with you on that Flashling. Pity to get that sort of thing in another one of Dac&#039;s &#039;smooth specials&#039;.

Ta
Rowly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you on that Flashling. Pity to get that sort of thing in another one of Dac&#8217;s &#8216;smooth specials&#8217;.</p>
<p>Ta<br />
Rowly.</p>
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