Comments on: Everyman 3451/25 November http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/12/02/everyman-345125-november/ Never knowingly undersolved. Tue, 18 Jun 2013 07:06:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Rodman http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/12/02/everyman-345125-november/#comment-217936 Rodman Sat, 29 Dec 2012 18:36:04 +0000 http://www.fifteensquared.net/?p=52047#comment-217936 We get this puzzle in our Saturday paper here in NZ, I fancy myself as a bit of a geographer but I didn’t know about Keele.

]]> By: Pierre http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/12/02/everyman-345125-november/#comment-216570 Pierre Sun, 02 Dec 2012 12:47:36 +0000 http://www.fifteensquared.net/?p=52047#comment-216570 I’ve just realised that 11ac, KEELE, is cleverer than I gave Everyman credit for, since KEELE University is indeed around 20 miles West of LEEK. So it’s a bit &litish (what some people call an ‘all-in-one’ clue).

]]> By: Robi http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/12/02/everyman-345125-november/#comment-216566 Robi Sun, 02 Dec 2012 11:26:01 +0000 http://www.fifteensquared.net/?p=52047#comment-216566 Thanks Everyman & Pierre. Yes, a little tricky in parts but very enjoyable.

I also tried butler at first for 1d – according to Google there is a comic character butler in Richie Rich called Cadbury! I thought CLOSE FINISH was a good try. Maybe ‘by neck ends’ would have been better, although it would have spoilt the surface slightly.

Favourite clue was NOSTRUM with its rather difficult construction and misdirection for ‘odd.’

]]> By: Davy http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/12/02/everyman-345125-november/#comment-216562 Davy Sun, 02 Dec 2012 09:37:57 +0000 http://www.fifteensquared.net/?p=52047#comment-216562 Thanks Pierre,

Yes it was definitely trickier than usual and it took me longer to finish this than it did to finish
Araucaria’s prize puzzle the previous day. The answers TRIPLE SEC and KEELE involved quite complex
wordplay. Also, I initially put BY THE LETTER instead of TO, so this made 16d unsolvable until I saw
the error of my ways. Favourites were TOPSIDE and the very smooth REPRESS and ABANDON. Thanks Everyman.

]]> By: Bamberger http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/12/02/everyman-345125-november/#comment-216560 Bamberger Sun, 02 Dec 2012 09:01:01 +0000 http://www.fifteensquared.net/?p=52047#comment-216560 I put butler for 1d which meant 12a was e?t?n?o which I couldn’t get. That said I doubt if I would have solved a?t?n?o.
Gave up with a quite a few others unsolved -hardest for some tiem by a long chalk.

]]> By: Pierre http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/12/02/everyman-345125-november/#comment-216559 Pierre Sun, 02 Dec 2012 08:42:11 +0000 http://www.fifteensquared.net/?p=52047#comment-216559 Thanks, RichWA. I should have explained CLOSE FINISH the way you did.

]]> By: crosser http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/12/02/everyman-345125-november/#comment-216558 crosser Sun, 02 Dec 2012 08:24:11 +0000 http://www.fifteensquared.net/?p=52047#comment-216558 Many thanks, RichWA. I know nothing about racing.

]]> By: RichWA http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/12/02/everyman-345125-november/#comment-216557 RichWA Sun, 02 Dec 2012 07:13:40 +0000 http://www.fifteensquared.net/?p=52047#comment-216557 14a: I think Everyman is saying that a “neck” is one example of a close finish in racing, others being a “head” and a “short head”

]]> By: crosser http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/12/02/everyman-345125-november/#comment-216556 crosser Sun, 02 Dec 2012 06:29:20 +0000 http://www.fifteensquared.net/?p=52047#comment-216556 Thanks, Pierre, I needed your help with several of these. I agree that it was less straightforward than the usual Sunday fare.
Just one point – I don’t understand the function of “e.g.” in 14a.

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