Comments on: Financial Times 14,187 by Hamilton http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/12/14/financial-times-14187-by-hamilton/ Never knowingly undersolved. Wed, 22 May 2013 00:36:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: fearsome http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/12/14/financial-times-14187-by-hamilton/#comment-217397 fearsome Sat, 15 Dec 2012 13:50:53 +0000 http://www.fifteensquared.net/?p=52636#comment-217397 thanks Jed and Hamilton,
Unfortunately I was well beaten by this one :(

]]> By: Ferret http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/12/14/financial-times-14187-by-hamilton/#comment-217360 Ferret Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:45:50 +0000 http://www.fifteensquared.net/?p=52636#comment-217360 Nice solve……spent far too long playing with old advertising slogans and Roman gods trying to justify 18d as A MARS BAR :-)

]]> By: Pelham Barton http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/12/14/financial-times-14187-by-hamilton/#comment-217359 Pelham Barton Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:36:42 +0000 http://www.fifteensquared.net/?p=52636#comment-217359 Robi @5: I am happy to agree to differ on 7dn and 23dn, but feel it appropriate to point out that the devices used do not have universal approval.

I am not sure I understand your first comment – the surface grammar is fine, but 2dn reads (at least on the online version I was using) “Aim to disrupt leadership that held out”. I do not see how that can reasonably be interpreted as an instruction to remove the letters H-E-L-D from an anagram of “leadership”.

]]> By: Robi http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/12/14/financial-times-14187-by-hamilton/#comment-217356 Robi Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:19:26 +0000 http://www.fifteensquared.net/?p=52636#comment-217356 Good puzzle; thanks to Hamilton, and Jed for the blog.

PB@2; ‘the fort that held out against Indian attack’ seems OK to me. 7d ‘at’ is doing double duty, but I don’t think it really spoils the clue. ‘Even Emmanuel’ seems OK to me, but as you say, horses-for-courses. :)

]]> By: Pelham Barton http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/12/14/financial-times-14187-by-hamilton/#comment-217337 Pelham Barton Fri, 14 Dec 2012 14:00:31 +0000 http://www.fifteensquared.net/?p=52636#comment-217337 Further to 3 re 2dn: I think the clue would work much better as “Aim to disrupt leadership that has held out” – possibly the word “has” got lost?

]]> By: Pelham Barton http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/12/14/financial-times-14187-by-hamilton/#comment-217336 Pelham Barton Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:58:34 +0000 http://www.fifteensquared.net/?p=52636#comment-217336 Much to enjoy in this crossword, especially the cryptic definitions at 16ac and 13dn, so thanks Hamilton for those, and thanks Jed for the blog.

2dn: The word “that” seriously disrupts the cryptic grammar to me.

7dn: Here on the other hand, “at” seems to be doing double duty, as part of the anagram fodder and anagram lead.

23dn: “even Emmanuel” to mean “even numbered letters of Emmanuel” is too much of a stretch for my liking.

As always, I have no quarrel with those whose views on precision of cluing differ from mine.

]]> By: AID http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/12/14/financial-times-14187-by-hamilton/#comment-217334 AID Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:29:22 +0000 http://www.fifteensquared.net/?p=52636#comment-217334 18 down I dare say
Ares was the Greek god of war contained by 1 day.

]]> By: DavidA http://www.fifteensquared.net/2012/12/14/financial-times-14187-by-hamilton/#comment-217325 DavidA Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:09:47 +0000 http://www.fifteensquared.net/?p=52636#comment-217325 Jed, I suppose in 23 across, modest=moderate, and taking 25% off we have modera.

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