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	<title>Comments on: Independent Crossword 8172 by Tyrus (Saturday prize puzzle 22-12-2012)</title>
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		<title>By: twencelas</title>
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		<dc:creator>twencelas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 11:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ewwo - I agree but Chambers has the following entry:
G or G.
   abbrev: Gabon (IVR); Gauss; German (as in G-agents below); giga-; good; gourde; Government (as in G-man below); grand (1000 dollars); Group of (as in G5, etc below).

G is thus valid as an abbreviation for a 1000.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ewwo &#8211; I agree but Chambers has the following entry:<br />
G or G.<br />
   abbrev: Gabon (IVR); Gauss; German (as in G-agents below); giga-; good; gourde; Government (as in G-man below); grand (1000 dollars); Group of (as in G5, etc below).</p>
<p>G is thus valid as an abbreviation for a 1000.</p>
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		<title>By: ewwo</title>
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		<dc:creator>ewwo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 10:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the nice blog and puzzle.  It&#039;s a bit late I know, but I can see M (Roman) and k (kilo) for thousand. But responding to MikeC why G?  To me as a scientist, G can only be Giga, ie a billion, not a thousand.  I guess you are thinking G for grand but that seems obscure to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the nice blog and puzzle.  It&#8217;s a bit late I know, but I can see M (Roman) and k (kilo) for thousand. But responding to MikeC why G?  To me as a scientist, G can only be Giga, ie a billion, not a thousand.  I guess you are thinking G for grand but that seems obscure to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyrus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 13:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many thanks to twencelas for the blog and to others for their comments.
 
Re 13a H for home and L for lost are football abbreviations , as is T for town in 2dn. These appear often in newspapers so I think they&#039;re fair game.

I think MANKIER is probably more obvious for 21a as it&#039;s a more general term than MANGIER but apologies for the confusion. 

Think next puzzle&#039;s a bit easier. Happy New Year to all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks to twencelas for the blog and to others for their comments.</p>
<p>Re 13a H for home and L for lost are football abbreviations , as is T for town in 2dn. These appear often in newspapers so I think they&#8217;re fair game.</p>
<p>I think MANKIER is probably more obvious for 21a as it&#8217;s a more general term than MANGIER but apologies for the confusion. </p>
<p>Think next puzzle&#8217;s a bit easier. Happy New Year to all.</p>
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		<title>By: flashling</title>
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		<dc:creator>flashling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 22:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Tw and Tyrus, was too hard in the end, but fun enough for the bits I did, I blame the Christmas shopping...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tw and Tyrus, was too hard in the end, but fun enough for the bits I did, I blame the Christmas shopping&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MikeC</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 15:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks twenceslas and Tyrus. A good challenge, with some very neat devices. I couldn&#039;t parse 3d, either. For 21a, I had MANGIER, which I suggest is equally valid (either G or K for 1000).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks twenceslas and Tyrus. A good challenge, with some very neat devices. I couldn&#8217;t parse 3d, either. For 21a, I had MANGIER, which I suggest is equally valid (either G or K for 1000).</p>
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		<title>By: allan_c</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 14:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Certainly a challenge but I got there in the end, though I needed the blog to understand some of the clues, so thanks Tyrus and Twencelas.

A small quibble about 2dn in that I&#039;d not come across &#039;t&#039; as an abbreviation for &#039;town&#039; - it&#039;s not in Chambers (1998) or Collins (2006), although the answer was obvious.

To the general knowledge touches might be added Asgard and Barnet - although both are in Collins, and Asgard in Chambers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly a challenge but I got there in the end, though I needed the blog to understand some of the clues, so thanks Tyrus and Twencelas.</p>
<p>A small quibble about 2dn in that I&#8217;d not come across &#8216;t&#8217; as an abbreviation for &#8216;town&#8217; &#8211; it&#8217;s not in Chambers (1998) or Collins (2006), although the answer was obvious.</p>
<p>To the general knowledge touches might be added Asgard and Barnet &#8211; although both are in Collins, and Asgard in Chambers.</p>
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		<title>By: Dormouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dormouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 13:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No comments yet?  I found this incredibly hard going.  Started on the train last Saturday on the way to visiting family and barely scratched the surface.  Then, because of family gatherings, I had little chance to look at it again till Thursday when I got all but five clues.  Those haircuts gave me a problem, never heard of &quot;En brosse&quot; and didn&#039;t know there was a Tony Curtis hairstyle.  And I couldn&#039;t for the life of me see why 3dn was &quot;On the job&quot; so thanks for explaining that.  And 9ac did make me smile.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No comments yet?  I found this incredibly hard going.  Started on the train last Saturday on the way to visiting family and barely scratched the surface.  Then, because of family gatherings, I had little chance to look at it again till Thursday when I got all but five clues.  Those haircuts gave me a problem, never heard of &#8220;En brosse&#8221; and didn&#8217;t know there was a Tony Curtis hairstyle.  And I couldn&#8217;t for the life of me see why 3dn was &#8220;On the job&#8221; so thanks for explaining that.  And 9ac did make me smile.</p>
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