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		<title>By: allan_c</title>
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		<dc:creator>allan_c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 21:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Polly, for that explanation.  That little ‘ès’ has always puzzled me; I couldn&#039;t quite see how it meant art(s), since the usual word is the same as in English, found, for example in &#039;Musée des Arts et Métiers&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Polly, for that explanation.  That little ‘ès’ has always puzzled me; I couldn&#8217;t quite see how it meant art(s), since the usual word is the same as in English, found, for example in &#8216;Musée des Arts et Métiers&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bertandjoyce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bertandjoyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 19:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An interesting challenge today. We completed it despite not being able to parse 9ac and 27ac. We were too lazy to search for 9ac and thought about The Wee Frees but didn&#039;t bother looking for that either! So thanks to Duncan for spending the time doing so!

Thanks to Radian!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting challenge today. We completed it despite not being able to parse 9ac and 27ac. We were too lazy to search for 9ac and thought about The Wee Frees but didn&#8217;t bother looking for that either! So thanks to Duncan for spending the time doing so!</p>
<p>Thanks to Radian!</p>
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		<title>By: Polly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 18:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Duncan and Raich are right. The &#039;ès&#039; in French degrees is in fact a contraction of &#039;en les&#039; (in the); hence &#039;licencié ès lettres&#039; is a literature graduate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duncan and Raich are right. The &#8216;ès&#8217; in French degrees is in fact a contraction of &#8216;en les&#8217; (in the); hence &#8216;licencié ès lettres&#8217; is a literature graduate.</p>
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		<title>By: Raich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 18:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My guess re ES is that Duncan is right - a bit of a crossword staple from way way back.  tu es = thou art so es = (French) Art.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My guess re ES is that Duncan is right &#8211; a bit of a crossword staple from way way back.  tu es = thou art so es = (French) Art.</p>
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		<title>By: allan_c</title>
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		<dc:creator>allan_c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 18:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I parsed 8ac slightly differently, taking &#039;es&#039; to refer to art (or arts) as a noun, from the French &#039;Licence ès lettres&#039;, the quivalent of a BA or in some cases MA degree.  Those of us old enough to remember 1ac may also remember learning French from a textbook whose author&#039;s name had the qualifications &#039;MA, L ès l&#039; appended.

Thanks, Radian and Duncan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I parsed 8ac slightly differently, taking &#8216;es&#8217; to refer to art (or arts) as a noun, from the French &#8216;Licence ès lettres&#8217;, the quivalent of a BA or in some cases MA degree.  Those of us old enough to remember 1ac may also remember learning French from a textbook whose author&#8217;s name had the qualifications &#8216;MA, L ès l&#8217; appended.</p>
<p>Thanks, Radian and Duncan.</p>
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		<title>By: Wanderer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wanderer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 13:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Splendid fun which ticked all the right boxes for me.

26a: Ralph Waldo Emerson was the leader of the 19C New England transcendentalist movement, of which Thoreau was a noted follower, making this a fine &amp;lit.

Many thanks to Radian and Duncan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Splendid fun which ticked all the right boxes for me.</p>
<p>26a: Ralph Waldo Emerson was the leader of the 19C New England transcendentalist movement, of which Thoreau was a noted follower, making this a fine &amp;lit.</p>
<p>Many thanks to Radian and Duncan.</p>
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		<title>By: crypticsue</title>
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		<dc:creator>crypticsue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 12:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great fun indeed - just too young to remember 1a but I certainly remember the chilblains from 27a. :(   Thanks to Radian and Duncan too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great fun indeed &#8211; just too young to remember 1a but I certainly remember the chilblains from 27a. <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />    Thanks to Radian and Duncan too.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn's Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn's Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 08:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fine puzzle, fine blog - thanks to both.

Bit of a tour of the second half of the 20th century here, which was fun - no particular knowledge required (except maybe for APOSTLE, which I couldn&#039;t fathom).  Since the names of the spies were in the clues that gave you a good hint about what was going on.  My kind of theme.

A number of clever anagrams today.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fine puzzle, fine blog &#8211; thanks to both.</p>
<p>Bit of a tour of the second half of the 20th century here, which was fun &#8211; no particular knowledge required (except maybe for APOSTLE, which I couldn&#8217;t fathom).  Since the names of the spies were in the clues that gave you a good hint about what was going on.  My kind of theme.</p>
<p>A number of clever anagrams today.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeC</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 08:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks duncanshiell and Radian. French &quot;tu es&quot; is indeed the equivalent of &quot;thou art&quot;, I believe. Needed your help with parsing 13d. INRO was new to me but is probably a crossword standby (like etui?). Fun puzzle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks duncanshiell and Radian. French &#8220;tu es&#8221; is indeed the equivalent of &#8220;thou art&#8221;, I believe. Needed your help with parsing 13d. INRO was new to me but is probably a crossword standby (like etui?). Fun puzzle.</p>
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