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	<description>Never knowingly undersolved.</description>
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		<title>By: Huw Powell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Huw Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 00:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice little puzzle, although, with a few niggles, of course. Interesting that we all had different ones, though (Except Sil, who had all of them!).

I didn&#039;t even notice the issue at CURBSTONE being pretty thoroughly Americanized by now, and, yes, it is sloppy, not libertarian.

At 2, &quot;being&quot; is wrong and the only &quot;justifications&quot; I can see are 1. it was easy to solve and 2. it prevents &quot;backsolving&quot; 6.

SENT/CENT didn&#039;t bother me, I already had the C.  Funny how it&#039;s ok to use a foreign word for money but not for the edge of the pavement.

PUSHBIKE came very slowly due to &quot;taken out of&quot; meaning &quot;around&quot;.

In general I really liked this, though.  It went pretty smoothly, on the easy end for the Grauniad, and I think some of the niggles may relate to trying to introduce some difficulty.

Almost at first glance I saw the word &quot;artic&quot; and thought, &quot;oh, no, a tyop!&quot; and marked it for later investigation.  But when the answer suddenly occurred to me while staring at all the checked letters I suddenly remembered what it means in British.  My COD.

I  liked this overall.

Thanks for the puzzle, Audreus, and for an ever-wonderful blog, Eileen and the rest of you lot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice little puzzle, although, with a few niggles, of course. Interesting that we all had different ones, though (Except Sil, who had all of them!).</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t even notice the issue at CURBSTONE being pretty thoroughly Americanized by now, and, yes, it is sloppy, not libertarian.</p>
<p>At 2, &#8220;being&#8221; is wrong and the only &#8220;justifications&#8221; I can see are 1. it was easy to solve and 2. it prevents &#8220;backsolving&#8221; 6.</p>
<p>SENT/CENT didn&#8217;t bother me, I already had the C.  Funny how it&#8217;s ok to use a foreign word for money but not for the edge of the pavement.</p>
<p>PUSHBIKE came very slowly due to &#8220;taken out of&#8221; meaning &#8220;around&#8221;.</p>
<p>In general I really liked this, though.  It went pretty smoothly, on the easy end for the Grauniad, and I think some of the niggles may relate to trying to introduce some difficulty.</p>
<p>Almost at first glance I saw the word &#8220;artic&#8221; and thought, &#8220;oh, no, a tyop!&#8221; and marked it for later investigation.  But when the answer suddenly occurred to me while staring at all the checked letters I suddenly remembered what it means in British.  My COD.</p>
<p>I  liked this overall.</p>
<p>Thanks for the puzzle, Audreus, and for an ever-wonderful blog, Eileen and the rest of you lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[phitonelly @28

Can you explain at what point I should realise that pavement is the US meaning rather than the UK meaning.  Apart from anything else not all US pavements have curbstones.  A country road will just have verges, not curbstones.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>phitonelly @28</p>
<p>Can you explain at what point I should realise that pavement is the US meaning rather than the UK meaning.  Apart from anything else not all US pavements have curbstones.  A country road will just have verges, not curbstones.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 08:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One question - isn&#039;t 1a a double, rather than cryptic, definition?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One question &#8211; isn&#8217;t 1a a double, rather than cryptic, definition?</p>
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		<title>By: rhotician</title>
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		<dc:creator>rhotician</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 01:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Eileen. And Sil.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Eileen. And Sil.</p>
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		<title>By: Sil van den Hoek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sil van den Hoek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 23:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Eileen, I fear this time we didn&#039;t like it all.
Unlike on previous occasions I wasn&#039;t on Audreus&#039; wavelength anyway and even my PinC (who is generally a Times &#039;purist&#039;) found it far too sloppy.

Of course, it&#039;s a matter of taste but &quot;First, little&quot; for L and &quot;opening sketches&quot; for S are not our cup of tea. 

We were also annoyed by some connecting words: &#039;to&#039; in 9ac, &#039;for&#039; in 22d (only my PinC, because I think it works as &#039;given to&#039; (and Araucaria uses it ever so often)) and &#039;on&#039; in 6d. I even questioned &#039;have&#039; in 18d, but it works just about.

As others said, the ambiguity of CENT/SENT should have been avoided. Only recently (in a Quiptic) Arachne pleaded guilty.

In 21ac: &quot;out of&quot; instead of &quot;outside of&quot;?

And Pete Duffin&#039;s comment on 2d makes total sense.
&quot;Being 6&quot; is wrong.

&quot;Typical&quot; in 19d an anagram indicator? In what sense? Moreover the definition alludes to the rest of the clue, but we couldn&#039;t see how or why? Very loose.

Haven&#039;t even talked about Hawkeshead and Curbstone.

Sorry to all those who enjoyed this crossword (and to Audreus).
Best clues: 11ac, 8d and perhaps 23d too.

ps, Rowland, I fear we are really not on each other&#039;s wavelength. I cannot see why this crossword is &#039;very good&#039; and Picaroon&#039;s is &#039;inconsistent&#039;. So be it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Eileen, I fear this time we didn&#8217;t like it all.<br />
Unlike on previous occasions I wasn&#8217;t on Audreus&#8217; wavelength anyway and even my PinC (who is generally a Times &#8216;purist&#8217;) found it far too sloppy.</p>
<p>Of course, it&#8217;s a matter of taste but &#8220;First, little&#8221; for L and &#8220;opening sketches&#8221; for S are not our cup of tea. </p>
<p>We were also annoyed by some connecting words: &#8216;to&#8217; in 9ac, &#8216;for&#8217; in 22d (only my PinC, because I think it works as &#8216;given to&#8217; (and Araucaria uses it ever so often)) and &#8216;on&#8217; in 6d. I even questioned &#8216;have&#8217; in 18d, but it works just about.</p>
<p>As others said, the ambiguity of CENT/SENT should have been avoided. Only recently (in a Quiptic) Arachne pleaded guilty.</p>
<p>In 21ac: &#8220;out of&#8221; instead of &#8220;outside of&#8221;?</p>
<p>And Pete Duffin&#8217;s comment on 2d makes total sense.<br />
&#8220;Being 6&#8243; is wrong.</p>
<p>&#8220;Typical&#8221; in 19d an anagram indicator? In what sense? Moreover the definition alludes to the rest of the clue, but we couldn&#8217;t see how or why? Very loose.</p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t even talked about Hawkeshead and Curbstone.</p>
<p>Sorry to all those who enjoyed this crossword (and to Audreus).<br />
Best clues: 11ac, 8d and perhaps 23d too.</p>
<p>ps, Rowland, I fear we are really not on each other&#8217;s wavelength. I cannot see why this crossword is &#8216;very good&#8217; and Picaroon&#8217;s is &#8216;inconsistent&#8217;. So be it.</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 22:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi phitonelly @28

So - you&#039;re asking us to accept an unindicated [and, to me, unknown] North American usage of a word to justify an unindicated North American spelling? That seema a step or two too far for me. If Audreus had used &#039;sidewalk&#039;, we&#039;d all have known what she was talking about!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi phitonelly @28</p>
<p>So &#8211; you&#8217;re asking us to accept an unindicated [and, to me, unknown] North American usage of a word to justify an unindicated North American spelling? That seema a step or two too far for me. If Audreus had used &#8216;sidewalk&#8217;, we&#8217;d all have known what she was talking about!</p>
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		<title>By: Martin P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 22:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[brucew_aus says:
 
&quot;...Did anyone else fall for the ‘obvious’ IDYLLS at 26 – (SILLY D)...&quot;

===


Not on this occasion, Bruce, but it always fascinates me to see just how many such perfect, alternative, and I surmise, unintended solutions arise in crosswords.

Thanks to all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brucew_aus says:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;Did anyone else fall for the ‘obvious’ IDYLLS at 26 – (SILLY D)&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>===</p>
<p>Not on this occasion, Bruce, but it always fascinates me to see just how many such perfect, alternative, and I surmise, unintended solutions arise in crosswords.</p>
<p>Thanks to all.</p>
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		<title>By: Ilippu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ilippu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 21:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ok..sorry..you have already pointed that out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok..sorry..you have already pointed that out.</p>
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		<title>By: Ilippu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ilippu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 21:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hi eileen.. thanks..re 27ac..adamic is right there..abroAD AM I Chubby..yes in the nude is the defn..coming from is indicative of the answer being present there..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi eileen.. thanks..re 27ac..adamic is right there..abroAD AM I Chubby..yes in the nude is the defn..coming from is indicative of the answer being present there..</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan (not that one)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan (not that one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 21:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice an easy as ever for Audreus. 

Like may others didn&#039;t like the CURBSTONE spelling.

Also I&#039;m also not sure about the &amp;lit device to indicate an anagram in 19d. 

It would appear that I am n a minority of one in disliking Honeybunch as a CD for SWARM!

It appears one can get away with all this when it&#039;s such an easy and enjoyable solve. 

Thanks to Audreus and Eileen.

Which SHED is going to turn up tomorrow? :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice an easy as ever for Audreus. </p>
<p>Like may others didn&#8217;t like the CURBSTONE spelling.</p>
<p>Also I&#8217;m also not sure about the &amp;lit device to indicate an anagram in 19d. </p>
<p>It would appear that I am n a minority of one in disliking Honeybunch as a CD for SWARM!</p>
<p>It appears one can get away with all this when it&#8217;s such an easy and enjoyable solve. </p>
<p>Thanks to Audreus and Eileen.</p>
<p>Which SHED is going to turn up tomorrow? <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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