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Independent 8202/Raich

Posted by Pierre on January 28th, 2013


Always a pleasure to get a Raich to blog, and I enjoyed battling with this one.  A tough solve for a Monday, though, I found.


Not sure whether the setter was deliberately giving us a more difficult Monday puzzle today, but I struggled to get going with this one and found some of the cluing a bit more devious than I would normally expect.  But it’s all fair, and there’s some good stuff in here for those who persevered with it, as well as a trip around the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

cd  cryptic definition
dd  double definition
(xxxx)*  anagram
anagrind = anagram indicator
[x]  letter(s) removed

definitions are underlined


Detainee, given year, brought to Southern county
A charade to get us started: POW for ‘prisoner of war’, followed by Y and S gives you the Welsh county.

Pompous article after flop gets lot of criticism
Another charade: of BOMB for ‘flop’, A and STIC[K].

Town where, Paul, say, managed to get 12 to retreat
We’re off to Scotland now.  The ferry port is a charade of ST for ‘Saint’ (‘Paul, say’), RAN and a reversal of REAR for a synonym of 12ac.

10  Deplorable learner’s abandoned second vehicle
S[L]ORRY.  ‘He was in a sorry state.’

11  Quote setter about medicament
Raich is prompting you to reverse CITE ME.

12  Seat representing most of Irish city previously occupied by Independent
Now Northern Ireland gets a look in.  The French word for ‘behind’ that we euphemistically use for bum or ‘seat’ is a charade of DERR[Y] and ERE for ‘previously’ with I inserted.  Aka LONDONDERRY, a source of some dispute in times past.

14  Education facility in German mountains greeting lecturer by lake
Well, I suppose the TV series of this name set in a comprehensive school did run for a long time, but this would most likely confound overseas solvers.  Another charade, of G for ‘German’, RANGE, HI, and two Ls, for ‘lecturer’ and ‘lake’.

16  Open ground, low, by river
The cattle are lowing, the baby awakes …  A charade of MOO and R.

19  Troy puts fringe elements away in defeat
The setter’s asking you to remove the outer letters of tROy and pUTs.

20  Queen sees foreign nanny hugging English tree trunk
An insertion of E and BOLE for ‘tree trunk’ in (NANNY)*  ‘Foreign’ is the anagrind and said Queen lost her head in 1536 after being found guilty of witchcraft, adultery and treason.  Might as well be hanged for a sheep as a lamb, as they say.

22  New trainee Duke kept on

23  When month starts I need help
The first day of May, traditionally a holiday.  MAYDAY (thrice said) is used by pilots and navigators to declare an emergency.  It’s an anglicisation from the French: Venez m’aider, or ‘Come help me’.

26  Product of 12s clearly wrong
Nowt to do with 12ac.  The last bit of the times table (when I went to school, at any rate): twelve twelves are a hundred and forty-four, which is a GROSS.  Gross misconduct and all that.

27  Of course it can’t be beaten
This setter doesn’t often do cds, so put this in your collection book.  Referring to a golf course.

28  PR reacted imaginatively, providing welcome
(PR REACTED)* with ‘imaginatively’ as the anagrind.

29  Large specimen’s defaced
[S]AMPLE.  ‘Defaced’ is a way of telling you to take off the first letter.  ‘Detailed’ to tell you to take off the last letter is probably more common.


Angrily gasp and sneer – “He’s not doing enough
(GASP SNEER)* with ‘angrily’ as the anagrind.

Dispute over London area becoming more unpleasant
A reversal of ROW for ‘dispute’ followed by the Sarf London postcode

Capital‘s cereal cut by opponent
An insertion of ANTI in SAGO gives you the capital of Chile.

Child at first bold, rascally, and ultimately insolent?
First letters of Bold, Rascally, And followed by the last letter of insolenT.  If you consider all children BRATS, this will work for you anyway; if you don’t, then you’ll need to consider the clue &litish.

Potential for real smiles as port becomes visible

Ridiculous to display muscles for all to see on road!
A charade of ABS, U and RD.  U as in the film classification, although I think it’s been superseded now.

See mother struggling (with father and child?)
(SEE MOTHER)*  ‘Struggling’ is the anagrind, and Raich, being a setter of some decorum, is suggesting the polite definition of a THREESOME.

Criminal somewhat graphicly despatched?
Bonnie’s partner is hidden in graphiCLY DEspatched.  I’d always want to spell it GRAPHICALLY, and this version isn’t in my dictionaries.

13  Possibly help canon, hesitant initially, to move from 4 to 5?
Again, nothing to do with clues 4 or 5. (HELP CANON H)*  ‘Possibly’ is the anagrind, and it’s what my children do with the zapper all the time.

15  Maturity shown by leader leaving religious group over headwear following publicity
A charade of AD, [C]ULT and HOOD.

17  Men under authority finally liberated here?
The foot’s been on the cryptic gas a bit in this puzzle, I fancy.  ‘Liberated’ is the anagrind and it’s (MEN UNDER Y)*  RUNNYMEDE is where the Magna Carta was sealed, so it’s a clever &lit, or ‘all in one’ clue.  And somewhere in England gets a mention under the Equal Opportunities (Crossword) (2013) Act.

18  60% of cash fighter’s originally assigned for portrait
Take the first three letters of five from MONey, add ALI’S  for the setters’ favourite boxer and the first letter of Assigned to give you the famous portrait by Mr Da Vinci that’s called La Joconde in French or La Gioconda in Italian.

21  Disregarding some characters, lassies take a rest
Hidden in lasSIES TAke a rest.

22  King’s error on field Queen acknowledged
After 23ac, more pilot-speak.  What he or she would say to acknowledge receipt of information from ATC.  R, OG for ‘own goal’ or ‘error on field’ and ER for ‘Queen’.  Raich will compile a crossword without a football reference one of these days …

24  Flag Director’s raised not adequate
A charade of D and a reversal of POOR.

25  Order to replace Italy with Luxembourg is without qualification
If you replace L for ‘Luxembourg’ with I for ‘Italy’ in FIAT you’ll get a word for ‘without qualification’.  I’m flat broke.  FIAT: ‘A formal authorisation’ (SOED).

Good puzzle to start the week from Raich; thanks to him.

16 Responses to “Independent 8202/Raich”

  1. crypticsue says:

    Definitely tough for a Monday – took me quite a while to finish off, although with the benefit of hindsight I am not entirely sure why I did see several clues a lot earlier. Thanks to Raich and Pierre too.

  2. flashling says:

    Perversely, I finished this off faster than any other this year so far, unlike Bannsider on Saturday who has me well beaten in places. Graphicly looks like an error I’d agree Pierre.

  3. Raich says:

    Thanks, Pierre – Collins dict gives GRAPHICLY as a alternative spelling.

  4. Pelham Barton says:

    Thanks Raich for an enjoyable puzzle and Pierre for the blog.

    8dn: Chambers 2008 also gives graphicly as an alternative to graphically.

  5. Pierre says:

    Thanks, both. I guessed it would be in a dictionary somewhere.

  6. MikeC says:

    Thanks Pierre and Raich. Enjoyable – I agree a little tougher than usual. Re 8d, I didn’t check the dictionary spelling to make sure Raich was correct (I would be very surprised if he weren’t!) but the unusual formation of “graphicly” gave me an extra nudge to look for a hidden answer. Much appreciated 😉

  7. allan_c says:

    Yes, I too finished this one fairly quickly (under half an hour), but the SE corner took a bit of teasing out. I read 13dn slightly differently thinking of a different sort of channel hop, from England to France where you would go from, e.g. 4 o’clock to 5 o’clock – but Pierre’s interpretation is a lot simpler and no doubt what Raich had in mind.

    Thanks Pierre and Raich.

  8. Mick H says:

    Nice misdirection in 26ac. I’m sure I wasn’t alone in considering and rejecting a few products of the derriere before the penny plopped.
    Thanks Raich and Pierre.

  9. Bertandjoyce says:

    Yes, we were also misdirected in 26ac. SW corner took a bit of teasing out until the penny dropped for 26ac. If it had been left to Joyce she thinks she would still be here for some while trying to sort it out! Not being into football, OG did not naturally come to mind either!

    Enjoyable puzzle though so thanks to Raich and also Pierre for the blog. It was good to know that if we couldn’t sort it out, we knew someone who could!

  10. Wil Ransome says:

    Enjoyable as usual, and I thought this was a lot easier than many crosswords the Indy offers. Easier than whatever I have to blog tomorrow no doubt.

    Yes I know ‘graphicly’ is in Chambers etc and so it’s OK, but the spelling is so odd that either a hidden or an anagram cries out.

    Raich usually has a gentle Nina, but I can’t see anything here apart from one or two short words in the unches, and that’s surely just chance.

  11. Raich says:

    Thanks, Pierre, for the blog and all for your comments. Yes, Wil at #10, there is no Nina/theme here.

  12. Lancastrian Bluenose says:

    Powys not a county, but an administrative area, that’s why I couldn’t get this.

  13. eimi says:

    As of 6 hours ago today, Powys County Council were tweeting – perhaps someone should tell them.

  14. Lancastrian Bluenose says:

    Just because something is called a county,doesn’t mean that it is.

  15. eimi says:

    I think Raich is justified in calling Powys a county is it’s called a county. Even if it wasn’t still a county, Raich would be justified in calling it a county. A setter might define Nero as Roman emperor, even though obviously he isn’t any more.

  16. Raich says:

    If I may comment on this, without obviously knowing all the ins and outs of what has happened in Powys over the years. Both of the main dictionaries that include proper names (Collins and the Oxford Dictionary of English) define it straight off as a county so I’d no hesitation (or doubt) whatsoever in using that as the definition in the clue.

    To learn a little about the area, which I don’t think I’ve ever been in, though I’ve been to Wales many times both through work and pleasure, I’d also looked at Wikipedia (which I realise cannot be absolutely relied on and further checking is always advisable). There too the word ‘county’ is used in the first line. I see now that deeper down in the Wiki article there is a reference to a ‘unitary authority’ but, as eimi has pointed, out their website (to which there is a link in the Wiki article) uses the term ‘Powys County Council’.

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