<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Guardian 25,864 / Paul</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.fifteensquared.net/2013/02/06/guardian-25864-paul/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2013/02/06/guardian-25864-paul/</link>
	<description>Never knowingly undersolved.</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 09:40:43 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Anne Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2013/02/06/guardian-25864-paul/#comment-220730</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fifteensquared.net/?p=55290#comment-220730</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Loved it. I also like themed puzzles, especially those which don&#039;t require too much local UK sport knowledge. Thanks Paul and Eileen.  CanberraChloe]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loved it. I also like themed puzzles, especially those which don&#8217;t require too much local UK sport knowledge. Thanks Paul and Eileen.  CanberraChloe</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: brucew_aus</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2013/02/06/guardian-25864-paul/#comment-220293</link>
		<dc:creator>brucew_aus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 13:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fifteensquared.net/?p=55290#comment-220293</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Paul and Eileen

I did actually finish this on Wednesday, but hadn&#039;t had time to finish parsing and final check before looking in here.  As it turns out - I still did not parse 1d and 3d properly - so thanks Eileen for setting me straight there.

23 was my first one in, but didn&#039;t really help with the theme after refusing to Wiki DB and write them all in - so CHANGES, CHINA GIRL, REBEL REBEL and STARMAN were amongst the last few in.  Compared to others, I did find a bit of a challenge with the puzzle.  Nice to see Iggy Pop turn up directly in 8d as well as a collaborator in the first release of 6d.

Thanks Eileen for the extra links - will look at them over the weekend on my laptop rather than the phone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Paul and Eileen</p>
<p>I did actually finish this on Wednesday, but hadn&#8217;t had time to finish parsing and final check before looking in here.  As it turns out &#8211; I still did not parse 1d and 3d properly &#8211; so thanks Eileen for setting me straight there.</p>
<p>23 was my first one in, but didn&#8217;t really help with the theme after refusing to Wiki DB and write them all in &#8211; so CHANGES, CHINA GIRL, REBEL REBEL and STARMAN were amongst the last few in.  Compared to others, I did find a bit of a challenge with the puzzle.  Nice to see Iggy Pop turn up directly in 8d as well as a collaborator in the first release of 6d.</p>
<p>Thanks Eileen for the extra links &#8211; will look at them over the weekend on my laptop rather than the phone.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Huw Powell</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2013/02/06/guardian-25864-paul/#comment-220269</link>
		<dc:creator>Huw Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 01:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fifteensquared.net/?p=55290#comment-220269</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I forgot to thank Eileen for the extra puzzle and interview link!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to thank Eileen for the extra puzzle and interview link!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Huw Powell</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2013/02/06/guardian-25864-paul/#comment-220268</link>
		<dc:creator>Huw Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 01:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fifteensquared.net/?p=55290#comment-220268</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I found this puzzle to be perfect, for strange reasons, mostly.  I do these things for entertainment and challenge, not a quick thing to do over breakfast.  I was definitely not on Paul&#039;s wavelength here, which made the non-themed clues wonderfully difficult.  I am just enough of a fan of the theatrical rock star that I knew, once parsed, that my theme answers were correct.  But there were enough possibilities for answers that it wasn&#039;t a simple &quot;write in&quot;, due to the man&#039;s long career and many hit singles.

As far as the grumpies who considered the theme beneath them, pop/rock music is not only becoming &quot;classical&quot; in a sense, but it is one of Britain&#039;s strange accomplishments, far beyond her population, to have dominated it for so long.  Were I to try to list the &quot;10 best pop/rock acts ever&quot;, after the obvious Beatles/Rolling Stones/Who/Queen (in whichever order you prefer), David Bowie would surely be one of the other six.  Feigning disgust at the triteness of the theme just because it is &quot;pop&quot; music is false bravado.  A random &quot;one hit wonder&quot; might be a lame device to use in a clue, but a man with a 40+ year history of making #1 hit singles is surely as valid a theme as, say, plants or colors.

My COD was 8, which I had to come here to get slapped in the forehead for the parsing.  Last in was 16d, after I gave up on finding &quot;ft&quot; or &quot;sun&quot; in it.

20d is a true cryptic clue - definition plus wordplay.  &quot;Partial&quot; is the definition.  &quot;brunette, then&quot; is the cryptic wordplay.  Nicely inventive.  Some of these talented youngsters are giving the Reverend a run for his money with their ability to come up with fresh constructions like this.

Finally, thanks to Paul, and Eileen - sorry it was such a slog for you - and the rest of you two hundred and twenty fivers who make this place so interesting!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this puzzle to be perfect, for strange reasons, mostly.  I do these things for entertainment and challenge, not a quick thing to do over breakfast.  I was definitely not on Paul&#8217;s wavelength here, which made the non-themed clues wonderfully difficult.  I am just enough of a fan of the theatrical rock star that I knew, once parsed, that my theme answers were correct.  But there were enough possibilities for answers that it wasn&#8217;t a simple &#8220;write in&#8221;, due to the man&#8217;s long career and many hit singles.</p>
<p>As far as the grumpies who considered the theme beneath them, pop/rock music is not only becoming &#8220;classical&#8221; in a sense, but it is one of Britain&#8217;s strange accomplishments, far beyond her population, to have dominated it for so long.  Were I to try to list the &#8220;10 best pop/rock acts ever&#8221;, after the obvious Beatles/Rolling Stones/Who/Queen (in whichever order you prefer), David Bowie would surely be one of the other six.  Feigning disgust at the triteness of the theme just because it is &#8220;pop&#8221; music is false bravado.  A random &#8220;one hit wonder&#8221; might be a lame device to use in a clue, but a man with a 40+ year history of making #1 hit singles is surely as valid a theme as, say, plants or colors.</p>
<p>My COD was 8, which I had to come here to get slapped in the forehead for the parsing.  Last in was 16d, after I gave up on finding &#8220;ft&#8221; or &#8220;sun&#8221; in it.</p>
<p>20d is a true cryptic clue &#8211; definition plus wordplay.  &#8220;Partial&#8221; is the definition.  &#8220;brunette, then&#8221; is the cryptic wordplay.  Nicely inventive.  Some of these talented youngsters are giving the Reverend a run for his money with their ability to come up with fresh constructions like this.</p>
<p>Finally, thanks to Paul, and Eileen &#8211; sorry it was such a slog for you &#8211; and the rest of you two hundred and twenty fivers who make this place so interesting!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Gail</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2013/02/06/guardian-25864-paul/#comment-220240</link>
		<dc:creator>Gail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 14:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fifteensquared.net/?p=55290#comment-220240</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Well, this regular solver (although I rarely comment on here - just lurk and enjoy) was in 7th heaven with this puzzle.  Having been a fan since 1971, my brain power was spent largely on the un-themed clues.  As usual, The Guardian crossword relieved the tedium of my morning bus journey to work.

Thank you, Paul, from this very appreciative reader.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, this regular solver (although I rarely comment on here &#8211; just lurk and enjoy) was in 7th heaven with this puzzle.  Having been a fan since 1971, my brain power was spent largely on the un-themed clues.  As usual, The Guardian crossword relieved the tedium of my morning bus journey to work.</p>
<p>Thank you, Paul, from this very appreciative reader.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: stiofain</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2013/02/06/guardian-25864-paul/#comment-220200</link>
		<dc:creator>stiofain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 00:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fifteensquared.net/?p=55290#comment-220200</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[im just relieved it didnt have have a 57 lights fill in clue]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im just relieved it didnt have have a 57 lights fill in clue</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Brendan (not that one)</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2013/02/06/guardian-25864-paul/#comment-220196</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan (not that one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 22:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fifteensquared.net/?p=55290#comment-220196</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Well I found it quite enjoyable if not too challenging.

Perhaps Paul made a lot of the non thematic clues so easy in order to help those in their &quot;Golden Years&quot; who were &quot;Under Pressure&quot; recalling Bowie tracks. This could have led to &quot;Sorrow&quot; and perhaps even &quot;Breaking Glass&quot;!

If you had an iPod Shuffle perhaps you&#039;d be better informed.  ;-)

Thanks to Eileen and Paul.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I found it quite enjoyable if not too challenging.</p>
<p>Perhaps Paul made a lot of the non thematic clues so easy in order to help those in their &#8220;Golden Years&#8221; who were &#8220;Under Pressure&#8221; recalling Bowie tracks. This could have led to &#8220;Sorrow&#8221; and perhaps even &#8220;Breaking Glass&#8221;!</p>
<p>If you had an iPod Shuffle perhaps you&#8217;d be better informed.  <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks to Eileen and Paul.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: RCWhiting</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2013/02/06/guardian-25864-paul/#comment-220195</link>
		<dc:creator>RCWhiting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 22:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fifteensquared.net/?p=55290#comment-220195</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Of the non-thematic clues, I thought TOUCAN, GAGA, IMPEND, ANATOMIST, UPBEAT, WAGE and NUTCASE would not have been out of place in a Quiptic puzzle.&quot;

Agreed,but I think you could comfortably add &#039;sesame&#039; and &#039;lampblack&#039; to that list.
And that is the real failing of this puzzle; it IS the wrong kind of theme but such puzzles do sometimes work fairly well but only where the non-theme clues are challenging.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Of the non-thematic clues, I thought TOUCAN, GAGA, IMPEND, ANATOMIST, UPBEAT, WAGE and NUTCASE would not have been out of place in a Quiptic puzzle.&#8221;</p>
<p>Agreed,but I think you could comfortably add &#8216;sesame&#8217; and &#8216;lampblack&#8217; to that list.<br />
And that is the real failing of this puzzle; it IS the wrong kind of theme but such puzzles do sometimes work fairly well but only where the non-theme clues are challenging.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Eileen</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2013/02/06/guardian-25864-paul/#comment-220194</link>
		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 21:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fifteensquared.net/?p=55290#comment-220194</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Definitely a Marmite puzzle - dividing those who like / dislike themes of any kind and then those who liked / disliked this particular one.

Not only that - I am not at all against themed puzzles per se, even when the theme is alien to me, because I can still appreciate the cleverness of the wordplay without understanding all the allusions, and I positively revel in them when they&#039;re right up my street [although I do prefer it when the cross-references are rather more subtle and the themes are included in the clues as well as the answers - a thing Tramp does so well] and there are always the non-themed clues to maintain interest.

For me, this one, surprisingly - since it was a Paul puzzle - fell short on both counts. The theme, as I said, was not dear to my heart but, while I appreciated the cleverness of SPACE ODDITY and ZIGGY STARDUST, once explained to me, I thought that FAME, REBELS and  CHANGES were barely cryptic and STARMAN was the simplest of charades.

Of the non-thematic clues, I thought TOUCAN, GAGA, IMPEND, ANATOMIST, UPBEAT, WAGE and NUTCASE would not have been out of place in a Quiptic puzzle.

All in all, if there had  been no name on this puzzle, I think I&#039;d have been hard put to it to guess that it was a Paul. [And that, Paul, is intended as a compliment. ;-) ]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely a Marmite puzzle &#8211; dividing those who like / dislike themes of any kind and then those who liked / disliked this particular one.</p>
<p>Not only that &#8211; I am not at all against themed puzzles per se, even when the theme is alien to me, because I can still appreciate the cleverness of the wordplay without understanding all the allusions, and I positively revel in them when they&#8217;re right up my street [although I do prefer it when the cross-references are rather more subtle and the themes are included in the clues as well as the answers - a thing Tramp does so well] and there are always the non-themed clues to maintain interest.</p>
<p>For me, this one, surprisingly &#8211; since it was a Paul puzzle &#8211; fell short on both counts. The theme, as I said, was not dear to my heart but, while I appreciated the cleverness of SPACE ODDITY and ZIGGY STARDUST, once explained to me, I thought that FAME, REBELS and  CHANGES were barely cryptic and STARMAN was the simplest of charades.</p>
<p>Of the non-thematic clues, I thought TOUCAN, GAGA, IMPEND, ANATOMIST, UPBEAT, WAGE and NUTCASE would not have been out of place in a Quiptic puzzle.</p>
<p>All in all, if there had  been no name on this puzzle, I think I&#8217;d have been hard put to it to guess that it was a Paul. [And that, Paul, is intended as a compliment. <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  ]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: ToniL</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2013/02/06/guardian-25864-paul/#comment-220192</link>
		<dc:creator>ToniL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 21:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fifteensquared.net/?p=55290#comment-220192</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Morpheus @45

Except clues for 10a and 2,5d?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morpheus @45</p>
<p>Except clues for 10a and 2,5d?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
