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	<title>Comments on: Independent 8218 / Phi</title>
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		<title>By: Raich</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2013/02/15/independent-8218-phi/#comment-220731</link>
		<dc:creator>Raich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 23:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thought that in ROMAN it might be Roman =  a novel (in French) so not translated into Italian.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought that in ROMAN it might be Roman =  a novel (in French) so not translated into Italian.</p>
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		<title>By: Bertandjoyce</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2013/02/15/independent-8218-phi/#comment-220729</link>
		<dc:creator>Bertandjoyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#039;re not really happy about the explanation for 21d. We wrote it but wondered if it could possibly be linked to ROMANCE as a form of novel but we can&#039;t make the rest of the clue work.

Anyway, enjoyed the pangram so thanks to Phi. Thanks also to Duncan for the blog.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re not really happy about the explanation for 21d. We wrote it but wondered if it could possibly be linked to ROMANCE as a form of novel but we can&#8217;t make the rest of the clue work.</p>
<p>Anyway, enjoyed the pangram so thanks to Phi. Thanks also to Duncan for the blog.</p>
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		<title>By: flashling</title>
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		<dc:creator>flashling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 21:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi lizard search for IdotheI]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi lizard search for IdotheI</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn's Dad</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2013/02/15/independent-8218-phi/#comment-220725</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathryn's Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 20:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s &#039;Play pin the tail on the donkey a little bit more?&#039;  My first one in, cheers to lizard.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s &#8216;Play pin the tail on the donkey a little bit more?&#8217;  My first one in, cheers to lizard.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn's Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn's Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 20:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi lizard.  I&#039;m just about to settle down with the i puzzle for today and a glass of red to see how far I get with Nimrod (not very far, if history repeats itself).

But ADDEND is a verb meaning to add one number to another, so that&#039;s most likely the explanation.  Probably the same root as ADDENDUM.

Hope that helps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi lizard.  I&#8217;m just about to settle down with the i puzzle for today and a glass of red to see how far I get with Nimrod (not very far, if history repeats itself).</p>
<p>But ADDEND is a verb meaning to add one number to another, so that&#8217;s most likely the explanation.  Probably the same root as ADDENDUM.</p>
<p>Hope that helps.</p>
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		<title>By: NealH</title>
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		<dc:creator>NealH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 20:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you give us the exact clue, I&#039;m sure someone can elaborate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you give us the exact clue, I&#8217;m sure someone can elaborate.</p>
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		<title>By: lizard</title>
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		<dc:creator>lizard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 20:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anyone done the &quot;i&quot; today? The old blog doesn&#039;t show the answer for 24/10, and &quot;add end&quot; isn&#039;t a phrase I know for &quot;a little bit more&quot;!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone done the &#8220;i&#8221; today? The old blog doesn&#8217;t show the answer for 24/10, and &#8220;add end&#8221; isn&#8217;t a phrase I know for &#8220;a little bit more&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>By: Phi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 19:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I maintain a list of &#039;interesting&#039; words to fill grids, and this puzzle used four or five off that list.  SCOFFLAW wasn&#039;t one of them, and was the only entry I thought verging on the obscure.  WAZZOCK went in because of a UK political story on the BBC, though I can&#039;t now recall which wazzock was calling which other wazzock a wazzock.  BISQUE as a sporting term I know from Quiller-Couch&#039;s weird and wonderful Famous Ballad of the Jubilee Cup (which I recommend as a fine piece of comic verse; try here: http://rickcreation.com/rickwalton/folktale/wells129.htm).

And I was quite pleased to find a shoe that was also an accent!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I maintain a list of &#8216;interesting&#8217; words to fill grids, and this puzzle used four or five off that list.  SCOFFLAW wasn&#8217;t one of them, and was the only entry I thought verging on the obscure.  WAZZOCK went in because of a UK political story on the BBC, though I can&#8217;t now recall which wazzock was calling which other wazzock a wazzock.  BISQUE as a sporting term I know from Quiller-Couch&#8217;s weird and wonderful Famous Ballad of the Jubilee Cup (which I recommend as a fine piece of comic verse; try here: <a href="http://rickcreation.com/rickwalton/folktale/wells129.htm" rel="nofollow">http://rickcreation.com/rickwalton/folktale/wells129.htm</a>).</p>
<p>And I was quite pleased to find a shoe that was also an accent!</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn's Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn's Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 16:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Duncan.  This was one where spotting the possiblity of a pangram did help with the final half-dozen or so.  BELOW THE SALT, RAMJET and WOOMERA were all new to me but I got them finally with a few crossers and the wordplay.  SCOFFLAW I&#039;d also never heard of and was never going to get without a wordsearch, I&#039;m afraid.

I too liked PUT A SOCK IN IT, once I&#039;d twigged the meaning of &#039;brogue&#039;.  WAZZOCK I&#039;d never heard before I came to live in Derbyshire, but it&#039;s quite common around here, so not too much trouble with that one.

I guess the FELL definition is as in the phrase ONE FELL SWOOP?

And finally, I guess ZEELAND is a nod to Phi&#039;s adopted country, since the original name given to it by the Dutch settlers was NIEUWE ZEELAND, the &#039;new land next to the sea&#039;.

Some interesting words in this one; thank you to Phi (who is probably excited about the cosmic events today ...)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Duncan.  This was one where spotting the possiblity of a pangram did help with the final half-dozen or so.  BELOW THE SALT, RAMJET and WOOMERA were all new to me but I got them finally with a few crossers and the wordplay.  SCOFFLAW I&#8217;d also never heard of and was never going to get without a wordsearch, I&#8217;m afraid.</p>
<p>I too liked PUT A SOCK IN IT, once I&#8217;d twigged the meaning of &#8216;brogue&#8217;.  WAZZOCK I&#8217;d never heard before I came to live in Derbyshire, but it&#8217;s quite common around here, so not too much trouble with that one.</p>
<p>I guess the FELL definition is as in the phrase ONE FELL SWOOP?</p>
<p>And finally, I guess ZEELAND is a nod to Phi&#8217;s adopted country, since the original name given to it by the Dutch settlers was NIEUWE ZEELAND, the &#8216;new land next to the sea&#8217;.</p>
<p>Some interesting words in this one; thank you to Phi (who is probably excited about the cosmic events today &#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: duncanshiell</title>
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		<dc:creator>duncanshiell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 15:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes - it&#039;s a fair cop by all those who spotted that I have used the definition of &lt;strong&gt;NEUTRON&lt;/strong&gt; rather than &lt;strong&gt;NEUTRINO&lt;/strong&gt; at 11 across.

I think it&#039;s also a fair cop on my not picking up on the additional definition of &#039;brogue&#039; as an accent at 15 across.  With that addition, the clue is obviously much better than I first thought - sorry!

Thanks to all who pointed out my sins and omissions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes &#8211; it&#8217;s a fair cop by all those who spotted that I have used the definition of <strong>NEUTRON</strong> rather than <strong>NEUTRINO</strong> at 11 across.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s also a fair cop on my not picking up on the additional definition of &#8216;brogue&#8217; as an accent at 15 across.  With that addition, the clue is obviously much better than I first thought &#8211; sorry!</p>
<p>Thanks to all who pointed out my sins and omissions.</p>
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