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	<title>Comments on: Guardian Prize Puzzle 25,867 by Bonxie</title>
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		<title>By: Robinistanbul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robinistanbul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2013 11:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Occasional contributor here.  Just wanted to endorse other comments about how delightful this puzzle was.  Managed to finish it on various buses here in Istanbul, plus a couple of ferry rides over to the Asian Side.  My son has just split up with a long-term birder girlfriend, who has hightailed it to a Scottish island - I forget which one - so the theme had resonance for me.  Congrats to Bonxie and thanks to PeeDee and you all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Occasional contributor here.  Just wanted to endorse other comments about how delightful this puzzle was.  Managed to finish it on various buses here in Istanbul, plus a couple of ferry rides over to the Asian Side.  My son has just split up with a long-term birder girlfriend, who has hightailed it to a Scottish island &#8211; I forget which one &#8211; so the theme had resonance for me.  Congrats to Bonxie and thanks to PeeDee and you all.</p>
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		<title>By: Huw Powell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Huw Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2013 00:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m definitely in the camp that overwhelmingly approves of this puzzle.

It took a bit of time to decide what the instructions meant, while solving some random &quot;normal&quot; clues - and coming up with, I think, seven of the themed ones, which simply stayed in pencil while I compiled a list of rather strange &quot;words&quot;.

Then I used OneLook to work out MISLAY from the checked letters and the cash descended at 9.8 m/s^2.

I seriously think it the repeat answer - RETIREE from the day before - was intentional.  The Friday clue had me staring at a map of the Hebrides for a few hours (ok, minutes) looking for islands I could use, and noticing some rather odd ones.  So then I started typing in my strange strings of letters into the Wikipedia search box, with increasing glee.  ALARUM fell easily then, since I had noticed and tried to use Rum the day before.  While drinking Scotch.

In terms of aids, I take a &quot;tiered&quot; approach - I certainly would love to someday solve a puzzle entirely out of my own knowledge, but I don&#039;t mind various levels of &quot;checking&quot;.  For instance, if I work out a likely answer that is a word I don&#039;t know, at some point I will probably look it up to see if it is correct, but usually after leaving it in pencil for a while.  It is a testament to the skill Bonxie demonstrated here that the only researches I really had to do was check that these were indeed (Scottish) islands, after coming up with valid solutions.

One themed puzzle I remember from some time ago revolved around the Battle of Trafalgar and Lord Nelson.  After working on it for some time, I was not embarrassed at all to read the entire Wikipedia article or three, fixing typos and grammar along the way, and occasionally noticing words that fit clues I had in the back of my mind.

I enjoyed this puzzle immensely, which is why I kept it out so I could come back here in a week and read the blog and leave my comments of praise.

So, thanks for the blog, PeeDee and the rest of you lot, and triple thanks to Bonxie for a delightful few hours!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m definitely in the camp that overwhelmingly approves of this puzzle.</p>
<p>It took a bit of time to decide what the instructions meant, while solving some random &#8220;normal&#8221; clues &#8211; and coming up with, I think, seven of the themed ones, which simply stayed in pencil while I compiled a list of rather strange &#8220;words&#8221;.</p>
<p>Then I used OneLook to work out MISLAY from the checked letters and the cash descended at 9.8 m/s^2.</p>
<p>I seriously think it the repeat answer &#8211; RETIREE from the day before &#8211; was intentional.  The Friday clue had me staring at a map of the Hebrides for a few hours (ok, minutes) looking for islands I could use, and noticing some rather odd ones.  So then I started typing in my strange strings of letters into the Wikipedia search box, with increasing glee.  ALARUM fell easily then, since I had noticed and tried to use Rum the day before.  While drinking Scotch.</p>
<p>In terms of aids, I take a &#8220;tiered&#8221; approach &#8211; I certainly would love to someday solve a puzzle entirely out of my own knowledge, but I don&#8217;t mind various levels of &#8220;checking&#8221;.  For instance, if I work out a likely answer that is a word I don&#8217;t know, at some point I will probably look it up to see if it is correct, but usually after leaving it in pencil for a while.  It is a testament to the skill Bonxie demonstrated here that the only researches I really had to do was check that these were indeed (Scottish) islands, after coming up with valid solutions.</p>
<p>One themed puzzle I remember from some time ago revolved around the Battle of Trafalgar and Lord Nelson.  After working on it for some time, I was not embarrassed at all to read the entire Wikipedia article or three, fixing typos and grammar along the way, and occasionally noticing words that fit clues I had in the back of my mind.</p>
<p>I enjoyed this puzzle immensely, which is why I kept it out so I could come back here in a week and read the blog and leave my comments of praise.</p>
<p>So, thanks for the blog, PeeDee and the rest of you lot, and triple thanks to Bonxie for a delightful few hours!</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan (not that one)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan (not that one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2013 21:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really enjoyed this one too.

I did have to resort to the Googled &quot;list&quot; for some of the islands but I expect to do this sometimes for the Prize puzzles.

Once I&#039;d cracked the instructions and theme it wasn&#039;t too difficult. (Allowing for the fact that this was a Prize which should in my opinion be a step (or two) up from the weekdays.

Regarding Dunscotus and Eileen @25 &amp; 27. Bizarrely my PC was playing &quot;Ihr habt nun Traurigkeit&quot; when I read your comments. Some coincidence when you consider I was playing from a random playlist of 2925 tracks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoyed this one too.</p>
<p>I did have to resort to the Googled &#8220;list&#8221; for some of the islands but I expect to do this sometimes for the Prize puzzles.</p>
<p>Once I&#8217;d cracked the instructions and theme it wasn&#8217;t too difficult. (Allowing for the fact that this was a Prize which should in my opinion be a step (or two) up from the weekdays.</p>
<p>Regarding Dunscotus and Eileen @25 &amp; 27. Bizarrely my PC was playing &#8220;Ihr habt nun Traurigkeit&#8221; when I read your comments. Some coincidence when you consider I was playing from a random playlist of 2925 tracks!</p>
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		<title>By: brucew_aus</title>
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		<dc:creator>brucew_aus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2013 05:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Bonxie and PeeDee

Think that this was one of the best Guardian puzzles for a long time.  

For me the theme didn&#039;t come into play until I was left with five clues that I just couldn&#039;t justify any answer for - in fact I&#039;d forgotten about the instruction and was cursing the &#039;error bug&#039; again.  Four others that still had a flag for me to parse at the finish and three more that I had somehow satisfied myself with the answer.

The penny finally dropped when I realized BUTANE should really be BUTENE that allowed RETIREE (and jogged memories of TIREE) - then saw BUTE, BARRA, ARRAN and ISLAY to complete the grid.  Still had work to complete the parsing of the other 7 islands and a sense of real satisfaction to see it completed.

Thank you Bonxie for the challenge that lasted over an elapsed 2-3 days!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Bonxie and PeeDee</p>
<p>Think that this was one of the best Guardian puzzles for a long time.  </p>
<p>For me the theme didn&#8217;t come into play until I was left with five clues that I just couldn&#8217;t justify any answer for &#8211; in fact I&#8217;d forgotten about the instruction and was cursing the &#8216;error bug&#8217; again.  Four others that still had a flag for me to parse at the finish and three more that I had somehow satisfied myself with the answer.</p>
<p>The penny finally dropped when I realized BUTANE should really be BUTENE that allowed RETIREE (and jogged memories of TIREE) &#8211; then saw BUTE, BARRA, ARRAN and ISLAY to complete the grid.  Still had work to complete the parsing of the other 7 islands and a sense of real satisfaction to see it completed.</p>
<p>Thank you Bonxie for the challenge that lasted over an elapsed 2-3 days!</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 20:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Azto - many thanks for that.

So, for a clue in this puzzle, absolutely anything goes - endless possibilities!! I could spend all night coming up with suggestions but I&#039;ll leave it to the experts. It would be great if Bonxie dropped in and offered a possibility. ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Azto &#8211; many thanks for that.</p>
<p>So, for a clue in this puzzle, absolutely anything goes &#8211; endless possibilities!! I could spend all night coming up with suggestions but I&#8217;ll leave it to the experts. It would be great if Bonxie dropped in and offered a possibility. <img src='http://www.fifteensquared.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Aztobesed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aztobesed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 19:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[g larsen @ 38

A good while back someone on the Guardian Comments clued Colonsay -

:eg

(I think it followed one of Paul&#039;s dingbat puzzles.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>g larsen @ 38</p>
<p>A good while back someone on the Guardian Comments clued Colonsay -</p>
<p>:eg</p>
<p>(I think it followed one of Paul&#8217;s dingbat puzzles.)</p>
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		<title>By: PeeDee</title>
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		<dc:creator>PeeDee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 19:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bebrava, Belá, Biela Orava, Blava, Blh, Bodrog, Bodva, Bystrica, Chlmec, Chvojnica, Cirocha, Cierna voda, Cierna voda, Danube, Dudváh, Dunajec, Duša, Gidra, Gortva, Handlovka, Hnilec, Hornád, Hron... can&#039;t wait to see someone take it on!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bebrava, Belá, Biela Orava, Blava, Blh, Bodrog, Bodva, Bystrica, Chlmec, Chvojnica, Cirocha, Cierna voda, Cierna voda, Danube, Dudváh, Dunajec, Duša, Gidra, Gortva, Handlovka, Hnilec, Hornád, Hron&#8230; can&#8217;t wait to see someone take it on!</p>
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		<title>By: g larsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>g larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks to PeeDee, and to Bonxie for one of the most satisfying prize crosswords for a long time.

It&#039;s a real tour de force in that it is hard to think of any other Scottish islands that could be used in this way - IONA is the only obvious example, and I spent a long time trying to slot Catriona in. It will be a real master who can find a way of incorporating Colonsay or North Ronaldsay.

I was very slow to get the idea, as I had carelessly read the instructions to mean that it was the solution that wasn&#039;t clued.

The theme was right up my street, as I have visited all but 3 of the islands. I hope I will be equally enthusiastic when we get Jim&#039;s (@9) suggestion of a puzzle based on Slovakian rivers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to PeeDee, and to Bonxie for one of the most satisfying prize crosswords for a long time.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a real tour de force in that it is hard to think of any other Scottish islands that could be used in this way &#8211; IONA is the only obvious example, and I spent a long time trying to slot Catriona in. It will be a real master who can find a way of incorporating Colonsay or North Ronaldsay.</p>
<p>I was very slow to get the idea, as I had carelessly read the instructions to mean that it was the solution that wasn&#8217;t clued.</p>
<p>The theme was right up my street, as I have visited all but 3 of the islands. I hope I will be equally enthusiastic when we get Jim&#8217;s (@9) suggestion of a puzzle based on Slovakian rivers.</p>
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		<title>By: nametab</title>
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		<dc:creator>nametab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really enjoyed this one.  Tough but fair; slow to reveal its solutions; ideal prize.  My inroad was &#039;Someday&#039; and looking up &#039;eday&#039; which revealed the theme.  Helped to have climbed in Scotland, and hence some passing familiarity with some isles.  My feeling for themed crosswords tends to vacillate according to how readily I find the theme, but they generally leave me admiring the compiler.
Thanks to Bonxie &amp; PeeDee]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoyed this one.  Tough but fair; slow to reveal its solutions; ideal prize.  My inroad was &#8216;Someday&#8217; and looking up &#8216;eday&#8217; which revealed the theme.  Helped to have climbed in Scotland, and hence some passing familiarity with some isles.  My feeling for themed crosswords tends to vacillate according to how readily I find the theme, but they generally leave me admiring the compiler.<br />
Thanks to Bonxie &amp; PeeDee</p>
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		<title>By: muck</title>
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		<dc:creator>muck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks PeeDee for the blog and Bonxie for a most entertaining puzzle

In my philosophy, &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meditation_XVII&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;no man is an island&lt;/a&gt;.
Nevertheless, I was honoured to find my pseudonym the key to this puzzle]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks PeeDee for the blog and Bonxie for a most entertaining puzzle</p>
<p>In my philosophy, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meditation_XVII" rel="nofollow">no man is an island</a>.<br />
Nevertheless, I was honoured to find my pseudonym the key to this puzzle</p>
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