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	<title>Comments on: Financial Times 14,251 by Cinephile</title>
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		<title>By: Pete Maclean</title>
		<link>http://www.fifteensquared.net/2013/03/14/financial-times-14251-by-cinephile/#comment-222365</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Maclean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2013 16:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MichaelG, thank you, yes, as I just confirmed for myself in my Chambers, &quot;v.&quot; is short for &quot;vide&quot;.  I have fixed the explanation of the clue to this effect.  And I will try to remember this v versus viz distinction.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MichaelG, thank you, yes, as I just confirmed for myself in my Chambers, &#8220;v.&#8221; is short for &#8220;vide&#8221;.  I have fixed the explanation of the clue to this effect.  And I will try to remember this v versus viz distinction.</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelG</title>
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		<dc:creator>MichaelG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2013 10:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I found this one quite hard, with several gaps even after resorting to onelook.com  - not helped by inserting SPORADIC in 4A!  In 28,13 I knew it should be &quot;dell&quot; as Spooner&#039;s version of 13A but missed the vowel shift rather than consonant when looking for a place in the West Midlands...
Thanks Pete for explaining 6D - an &quot;aha&quot; moment there, although I think &quot;V.&quot; is short for &quot;vide&quot; = see, albeit part of &quot;viz.&quot; = videlicet or namely.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this one quite hard, with several gaps even after resorting to onelook.com  &#8211; not helped by inserting SPORADIC in 4A!  In 28,13 I knew it should be &#8220;dell&#8221; as Spooner&#8217;s version of 13A but missed the vowel shift rather than consonant when looking for a place in the West Midlands&#8230;<br />
Thanks Pete for explaining 6D &#8211; an &#8220;aha&#8221; moment there, although I think &#8220;V.&#8221; is short for &#8220;vide&#8221; = see, albeit part of &#8220;viz.&#8221; = videlicet or namely.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Maclean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Maclean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2013 01:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well that&#039;s kind of what I meant about its being Cinephilic.  There are several bits and pieces that are not totally satisfactory but I do not feel obliged to point them all out; the puzzle is still well solvable.  For me, the only thing that goes beyond the pale is the SODI thing while MUNI is close.  I think &#039;quarterdeck twice&#039; works in that it means take two quarters of &#039;deck&#039;, that is DE.  The trouble is that it could, I suppose, just as easily clue DD (taking the first quarter twice) or at a pinch, any two letters of DECK.  As for 2dn, I agree that &quot;Man bites dog&quot; is a poor definition but I could not think of a better one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well that&#8217;s kind of what I meant about its being Cinephilic.  There are several bits and pieces that are not totally satisfactory but I do not feel obliged to point them all out; the puzzle is still well solvable.  For me, the only thing that goes beyond the pale is the SODI thing while MUNI is close.  I think &#8216;quarterdeck twice&#8217; works in that it means take two quarters of &#8216;deck&#8217;, that is DE.  The trouble is that it could, I suppose, just as easily clue DD (taking the first quarter twice) or at a pinch, any two letters of DECK.  As for 2dn, I agree that &#8220;Man bites dog&#8221; is a poor definition but I could not think of a better one.</p>
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		<title>By: Wil Ransome</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wil Ransome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2013 01:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As usual when Cinephile sets, quite apart from the excellent clues (like 14ac), which must be the ones that cause such hero-worship, I have a number of doubts:

a) In 1/25 it is very unusual for &#039;some immunity&#039; to give &#039;muni&#039; as only part of the wordplay. Mind you, I can&#039;t see what is wrong with this device, but it is very seldom if ever used, so far as I know.

b) In 4ac yes I agree, the only way for sodi to be a lot of salt is for salt to be sodium, which it isn&#039;t.

c) In 10ac the word &#039;to&#039; grates.  How can it work?

d) In 17ac first = A, and in 7dn second = B. Well ...

e) In 1dn &#039;quarterdeck twice&#039; to give de, seems remarkably tortuous. Indeed, I can&#039;t actually see how it works.

f) In 2dn of course &#039;Man bites dog&#039; may have news value but is it really a satisfactory definition of this?

I may well be wrong here and would be grateful if someone could point out how.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As usual when Cinephile sets, quite apart from the excellent clues (like 14ac), which must be the ones that cause such hero-worship, I have a number of doubts:</p>
<p>a) In 1/25 it is very unusual for &#8216;some immunity&#8217; to give &#8216;muni&#8217; as only part of the wordplay. Mind you, I can&#8217;t see what is wrong with this device, but it is very seldom if ever used, so far as I know.</p>
<p>b) In 4ac yes I agree, the only way for sodi to be a lot of salt is for salt to be sodium, which it isn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>c) In 10ac the word &#8216;to&#8217; grates.  How can it work?</p>
<p>d) In 17ac first = A, and in 7dn second = B. Well &#8230;</p>
<p>e) In 1dn &#8216;quarterdeck twice&#8217; to give de, seems remarkably tortuous. Indeed, I can&#8217;t actually see how it works.</p>
<p>f) In 2dn of course &#8216;Man bites dog&#8217; may have news value but is it really a satisfactory definition of this?</p>
<p>I may well be wrong here and would be grateful if someone could point out how.</p>
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