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  1. SM

    I posted a comment on today’s Bobcat and was told I did not have permlssion . I deleted my email address and tried again this time with success. This was not the first time this happened.What is the problem ?


  2. I honestly don’t know.

    Since it seems to be an intermittent problem, it will be tricky to track down.

    If it happens again can you take a screenshot and send it to admin please?

  3. SM

    Thanks kenmac. I will.

  4. AP

    It looks like the new ‘Comment deleted or awaiting moderation’ notice and accompanying ID-reservation is working out very well.

    A purely presentational suggestion : perhaps make the message sit within its own horizontal rules/lines, so that it stands apart from the preceding comment. Currently, its positioning and indentation below the preceding comment makes it look like it was a reply to that comment (since that’s the way that these things work on many other forums). And the problem with that is that when one sees that the supposed reply was deleted, it immediately sparks the idea that it must have been rude or insulting and so Admin has thwarted it! And then I have to remind myself that no, it was a completely independent comment but its positioning gives the wrong idea. This happens to me literally every time 😅

  5. Jay

    AP@4 I agree, I thought that my comments in various other threads had been replied to negatively until I realised that the deletions may not in fact relate to my post.
    The four vertical dashes imply that the deleted comment/s relate to what sits above it.

  6. Lord Jim

    I agree with AP @4 and Jay @5. The “comment deleted” message could definitely do with a blue line above as well as below it (and perhaps the removal of the indentation), because it currently looks as if it’s in the same “box” as the comment above it. Thanks in anticipation kenmac if you are prepared / able to sort this.

  7. Coloradan

    @4, @5, @7: One idea might be to hide the “deleted” comments altogether via a CSS rule:

    li.comment.deleted-comment {
    display: none;
    }

    This would show breaks in the numbering sequence but that might not be a big downside.

  8. Balfour

    Just to clarify, as it is being discussed, that the Comment Deleted tag does not necessarily mean that the blogger or admn has removed an abusive or otherwise unacceptable post. It is generated if the commenter him or herself elects to delete the comment during Edit time. This can be because the commenter sees that the point has just been made by someone else who got in moments ahead of them. It has happened to me just this morning.

  9. gladys

    Yes, I accidentally posted an incomplete comment, deleted it myself and was surprised to find that a “deleted comment” message was generated.

  10. AP

    Thanks for implementing this change! It looks much less ambiguous now, I think. The indentation and the dashed vertical line were the primary reasons for the comment looking like a reply, and they’ve both gone now.

    I do think there’s value in seeing the placeholder. If a comment has been deleted or flagged for moderation by an admin then it’s useful for its author to be able to see that. And if it’s been deleted by its author then it’s useful for any other reader who’s already read it to see that too, so avoid them thinking that they must have dreamt it!

  11. Coloradan

    On reflection I think you’re right, AP@10, about maintaining the placeholders. Aside from the scenarios you mention, various pathological cases could arise. Let’s say the first 5 comments on a blog are pending, trashed, or flagged as spam. The header would show “5 Comments”, yet the viewer would see nothing. I too like the current look.

  12. muffin

    Hi Kenmac
    1400 hours and no Guardian Vulcan blog?

  13. Jay

    Will there be a blog for Spectator 2,731 by Pabulum? Just wondering as the submission deadline was Dec. 15th.

  14. Admin

    Jay @15

    Looks like it was accidentally left in draft. It’s there now.

  15. Jay

    Thanks, Ken @16

  16. ilippu

    May I suggest that all blogs include the image of the completed grid?

    I find mc_rapper67’s grid(s) most useful – showing some progression in solving or highlighting the themesters.

  17. Admin

    ilippu @18

    The bloggers, as you probably know, are all volunteers and they have varying levels of technical skill. For some of them, if I were to insist on grids, let alone animated grids, then they’d probably refuse to do any more blogs. And none of us want that.

  18. ilippu

    Admin@19
    Thanks. I suspected something like that…

  19. Shanne

    ilippu @20 – having not highlighted the thematic clues on this week’s Quick Cryptic, your post reminded me that I had meant to, and because I like to know how to do these things, I wandered off to see if I could upload an animated image to highlight different things.

    There were several wrinkles to this – one is knowing how to create a .gif image from several layers. Now that I knew, having been into Photoshop/GIMP for years. The second is working out how to persuade this site to load it as a gif (moving image) not a static image, which the site does from preference. That’s the bit that took a while to work out. I tried uploading a gif for something else I blogged a while back, but didn’t have time to experiment then, so had wanted to have a second go.

    Thank you for reminding me to play, but, please note, I’m one of the bloggers who writes their blog in code, rather than using the site shortcuts, because it’s the only way to make the coding for the hidden answers and parsing work on this site. (It takes me 4 times as long to code in a blog than it does to produce it using the utility that a lot of us use for other crosswords.)

  20. ilippu

    Shanne@21
    Thanks.


  21. The blog for the Jumbo Maskarade puzzle, published by The Guardian on Saturday 27th December, has raised a couple of issues.

    The puzzle was only published in the newspaper. It was not made available on The Guardian website. With the benefit of hindsight, the implication of that decisions, to me, is that The Guardian wanted solvers to buy the newspaper to get access to the crossword.

    The first issue is whether fifteensquared should have created online links to the blank grid and the clues. The answer to that is probably no. I take responsibility for making links available for just over 24 hours, but I wouldn’t do so again in similar circumstances.

    The second issue is whether the blog should have appeared so soon, given that the puzzle is a Jumbo. Many Jumbos are prize puzzles, so the solution is not published in the newspaper until a week or more after the original puzzle is published. In such cases, fifteensquared will not publish a blog until the solution has been published in the newspaper.

    Saturday’s Maskarade Jumbo was not a prize puzzle. The solution was printed in the newspaper right beside the original puzzle, so was available the instant the newspaper was published. In those circumstances, I believe many solvers would wish to see a blog explaining the solution as soon as possible, so the fifteensquared blog was published mid-afternoon on Sunday 28th December. In similar circumstances, in future, I would also publish the blog as quickly as I could.

  22. Roz

    Duncan@24 I am very disappointed with the Guardian over this but will not have a rant .
    Yes the answers on the same page upside-down , I can read upside-down from many years of Scrabble so I foolishly looked not imagining it was the same puzzle .
    Since the answers were there your blog seems very reasonable .
    Should you have put a link ? again I think yes or many solvers , especially overseas , would never see it .
    I suspect it was not on the website simply because of the format meaning it could not be solved online , someone who knows better might correct me . The Guardian seems to have sidelined these specials , no longer a Prize , not on the right day and not even in the normal place . As a loyal reader who buys the paper everyday I feel insulted and I also feel sorry for Maskarade and for tradition .

  23. Roz

    Second thoughts for the link . Perhaps next time provide a link a day later , nobody is going to buy the paper a day later .

  24. Crossbar

    I pretty much agree with what Roz says above. However the Easter Maskarade special prize crossword was and still is available on the website with a link to a pdf, as there was no interactive version. I’m sure the Guardian editors have their reasons for changing things now, but I am miffed. I no longer buy the print edition for various reasons, but subscribe to the Guardian and use the app, which doesn’t have all the puzzles available in the hard copy.
    So, Duncan@24, as the Graun didn’t explain why their policy has changed, I think you were perfectly ok provide a grid and clues.
    Time for me to stop ranting about this, it is only a crossword after all. 😉

  25. Roz

    Easter is the last time it was normal and clearly could be seen on-line , thank you Crossbar@27 .
    August it was in the paper as normal but not a Prize , there was a normal Prize crossword on-line only that day so I did not get to see it .
    Now it is being sidelined even more . This is a great Guardian tradition , set by Araucaria for many years . Maskarade took over and has got better and better , I really like the alphabetical themes .

  26. sheffield hatter

    Duncan@24. Thank you for your explanations. I don’t think you needed to have second thoughts about posting the links. If the Guardian had really wanted to push sales of the physical newspaper on Saturday 27th, they should have put a teaser in the paper on the previous Saturday (20th, the last before Christmas) where the Christmas special has been published since about 2006 by my reckoning. I buy the paper every day, and did not see anything about the Maskarade on the 27th until – I think – Boxing Day. And that wasn’t in the paper!

    I agree with Roz@25: I’m very disappointed with how the Guardian have handled this. (I always fold the paper over before beginning, so did not see the filled grid at the bottom of the page!) I hope they have a good think about it and try to do better next time.

  27. Piano Man

    I have no problem with a version of the puzzle being provided because there are free versions of the printed paper available online using library apps such as Pressreader which is how I got it (other apps are available). I also think there was a very clear warning in the blog about the solution being there preventing accidental spoilers. I think 15² responded as best as it could to an extraordinary series of actions by the Guardian who seemed to get caught out with Christmas Day arriving on a Thursday. The rants are best directed at them and this appears to be what commentators have done.

  28. Roz

    Happy New Year KenMac and wishing you a speedy recovery . Thanks for your email to C , I even let him read it out to me . I am grateful for your diplomacy and your advice which I will try to follow for a whole year , my resolution – Step away from the ChromeBook – whenever I might cross the line .

  29. muffin

    Hi KenMac
    Someone other than me has posted as Muffin (capital M) on the Guardian Quick Cryptic blog. Nothing wrong with the comment, but it might cause confusion in the future?

  30. pdp11

    I occasionally lurk. Sometimes there’s a gem of a comment buried amongst 70 comments.

    Some discussion forums (eg BBC, Reddit) have thumbs up / down buttons so that you can easily see the most liked (and disliked) comments.

    I wonder if it would help having something similar. It’s a quick way of complimenting someone and something even lurkers could do without having to write a comment.

    Another advantage is that discussions are indirectly moderated by the participants. It becomes clear what sort of comments are welcome.

    Reddit “collapses” comments that are more disliked than liked, which is another time saver. I don’t know if the WordPress vote widget does that but something also worth trialing?

  31. Hovis

    Any chance of adding a link in Today’s Cryptics for the featured MyCrosswords? Easy to go there but just for completeness.

  32. ilippu

    Noticed during the past couple of days:
    The site loads slowly, and, some time comes with ‘service unavailable’ message, and one has to reload.

  33. Rich

    There’s a little formatting glitch that removes the padding from mc_rapper67’s avatar when it appears in the first paragraph/preview of a blog and the window is narrow/on a phone (it might affect all images but it’s only his avatar that appears frequently).

  34. muffin

    I’m having the same problems today as ilippu @33 had back in January

  35. Admin

    @35

    Yes, it’s been happening to me too. I contacted the hosting company and they say there’s nothing wrong, which is probably code for “can’t be bothered”

  36. Crispy

    Hi Ken. There’s a couple of dodgy posts on today’s Quiptic – 36 and 38

  37. Shanne

    Crispy @36 – not any more there aren’t. But all those awaiting moderation notes are variations on the same theme that I’ve had to take down – so far in Swedish, German and Finnish, plus mirror writing.

  38. Crispy

    Shanne @37. Apologies for the late reply – I saw that those comments had gone. I’m sorry you were given a hard time yesterday, but I thought you handled things brilliantly

  39. Shanne

    Thanks Crispy @38 – I did wonder why that particular crossword got hit by some troll, but it did get boring playing whack-a-mole with the comments.

  40. muffin

    Hi KenMac
    It’s after midday and there’s no blog on today’s Anto puzzle in the Guardian. Has there been a missed communication?

  41. gladys

    So far there is no blog for today’s Brendan crossword in the Guardian.

  42. muffin

    Hi Kenmac
    Brendan blog now in place, but it isn’t allowing comments

  43. muffin

    Me @43
    Now fixed

  44. KenF

    Seemingly no blog for FT 18293 by Jason yet at 17:15pm ( or is it my i-Pad?)

  45. SM

    I also have waited for the blog for the FT puzzle KenF@45 but please remember the date!!

  46. Admin

    @44 @45

    Technical troubles. A crew of troubleshooters (ie Turbolegs and me) currently investigating

  47. Crispy

    Ken – is there any way you can block comments from eoD nohJ and eoD enaJ? They are becoming a regular nuisance

  48. Shanne

    Comment #56 on the Anto Quiptic from yesterday Sunday 15 February) is another from the same troll as above.

    (Crispy @48 – there was nothing obviously wrong for Askimet to check – the emails looked OK, if you believed Thierry Henri, for one of the options, was likely to post here.)

  49. Roz

    KenMac if you have time could you just look at the Everyman comments from yesterday ? If possible it would just be nice if all comments ended for now .

  50. Max

    Crispy@48. I don’t think anything can be achieved by blocking by email address as the site lets anyone enter any email address. There is no verification that you have entered an email that belongs to you. I’m not actually sure why it ever even asked for an email before the days of avatars.

    I always read blogs at the end of the day.
    It is a shame to see now that nearly every post has deleted comments in it. I assume these were offensive or spam. Is this Akismet removing comments before they are seen or are these things that were manually deleted later on?

    @kenmac would it be possible to make the “this comment was deleted…” comments take less space and be visually more subtle? I think they stand out far more than they should do at the moment and so interrupt the flow of the discussion. Really, they just need to be unintrusive placeholders to show a skipped post number.

    I’m reading on a mobile device.

  51. Max

    I realise now that Crispy@48 was asking to block by name, but what I said still applies. Names aren’t unique on the site and anyone can enter anything when posting.

  52. gladys

    The mirror-writing pest is back @39 on today’s blog for Vlad’s Prize.

  53. bridgesong

    Gladys

    I have now removed the comment.

  54. Max

    Is there also a way to flag to Akismet that those particular posts are the sort that should be filtered automatically?

  55. Shanne

    Max @55 – I’ve just taken another of the trolling posts out of the Quick Cryptic and there’s nothing obvious in the emails to say that they are trolling – other than I could read the Spanish it was written in. The email addresses look fine.

    Ken, when you get there, there’s still a reverse script post on the blog for last week’s Quiptic, Quiptic 1369 by Anto, post 56.

  56. muffin

    Hi Kenmac
    I’ve just tried to post a re3ply on the Guardian blog, and (twice) got this:
    Oops! That page can’t be found.
    It looks like nothing was found at this location. Maybe try searching?

    Search for:

  57. muffin

    Me @59
    OK, it worked on the third try, after an interval

  58. Admin

    @61

    No idea – sorry. Nothing’s changed as far as I’m concerned

  59. Mig

    In edit mode, the formatting options (b, i, link) are not available. Any chance of adding them? (I’m guessing this may well have been requested before. If so, apologies for the trouble)

  60. Admin

    @64

    Gosh! I hadn’t really noticed that before. I’m away from home at the moment and I shall have a look when I’m back at my computer later today

  61. Roz

    Hi KenMac , my comments seem to be getting blocked today on the Guardian blog – Boatman 29948 . For once I do not think I have done something wrong ?

  62. Admin

    Roz @68

    Nothing that I can see

  63. Oly

    Functionality (humble) request:
    We often want to check the logic behind an answer midway through the crossword, but can’t come here before we finish the whole thing in case we see other answers.
    To solve this… could you add a ‘Reveal’ button to each answer (like the Reddit Spoiler tag) that defaults to ‘Concealed’?
    And I guess a ‘Reveal all’ button for cleverer people than me who don’t take forever to solve them all!
    Very grateful for the work though – thanks 🙂

  64. Roz

    Okay KenMac@68 thanks for looking .
    17 , 18 and 21 were mine , same comment with slight edits , all are showing as blocked on my screen but it does not really matter .

  65. Admin

    @70

    This comes up from time-to-time. We do do what you have requested on the Quick Cryptic but it’s a lot of work behind the scenes. Our team of bloggers have a variety of technical skills and for some, this would be too much to ask, so it ain’t changing any time soon.

    Sorry!

  66. Lord Jim

    I’ve just had a look back at yesterday’s Brummie blog and I notice that quite a few of the later comments referring back to earlier comments now give the wrong numbers. For example Mig @35 refers to Valentine @35 when it should (now) be @34, AlanC @38 refers to Balfour @33 when it should (now) be @32, and so on. I thought the idea of the new “comment deleted” message was that the original numbers would be retained. Did something go wrong on this occasion?

  67. Roz

    Hi KenMac , thanks for the email to C and I have checked Boatman and my comments are back , hope it was not too much trouble .

  68. Admin

    LJ@71

    It’s the spam messages that mess things up. When I delete a spam message, it is gone forever and no record of it is kept.

    During my recent hospital confinement I did come up with an alternative method, which I haven’t had time to implement on the live site.

  69. Lord Jim

    Thanks Ken.

  70. thecronester

    Does anyone know why I occasionally get access denied messages from the server? It seems to be intermittent but regular enough to be an irritation. It used to be consistently ok but over the last few months I’m getting the error at least sometime during a week of commenting. I sometimes clear cookies or uncheck and recheck the remember me box and it then seems to work but it feels like something is not quite right with the state handling on FifteenSquared server-side?

  71. SM

    I also have intermittent problems with access denied. I resorted to using my wife’s email. I have just tried to post this message on site feedback with the same result » wo-comments_post.php

  72. Admin

    SM @74

    Can you send an email to admin with more details please? The more details I have the more I can investigate

  73. Crispy

    Hi Kenmac. Any idea when the blog for today’s Vulcan will be appearing? Thanks.

  74. Roz

    Hi KenMac , is there going to be a blog for the Guardian Easter special by Maskarade ? It does not have a number . There is no entry or closing date , the answers are on the same page .
    I am told this might be difficult because it is not online or the right format etc .

  75. Crossbar

    Hi Kenmac. Same question as Roz@75 above. I realise this is a huge job for the blogger but it would be interesting to hear how others fared. There have been blogs, I think, on the Jumbo special even after it stopped being a prize. Thanks

  76. AP

    I would love it to be blogged! I’ve got a mistake somewhere because one of my last words to fit in doesn’t fit anywhere!

  77. AP

    Problem solved, and grid finally filled! A fun puzzle. I would love to hear a blogger’s take on a couple of parsings though…

  78. Roz

    AP@78 if you ask on General Discussion I will try and answer . Do not think it would be a spoiler now , the answers were in the paper .

  79. Admin

    @78

    It’s taken the blogger a few days. We’ll aim to publish it on Saturday.

  80. AP

    Roz@79 thank you, that’s kind of you. But tx also to Admin@80 for the info… let’s wait for the blog instead then.

  81. Crossbar

    Thanks Admin@80, and thanks to the blogger!

  82. muffin

    Hi KenMac
    On the Budmo Guardian thread there’s a rather unpleasant post from Aphid @30 – could you delete it?

  83. Bagpuss

    Is there going to be a blog for the FT Jumbo crossword (No 18,336) published on 4th April?

  84. muffin

    Thanks for the deletion, KenMac!

  85. Javi

    Same question as #84. The Easter weekend Jumbo was so clever and such fun, I’d love to know what others thought about it. Thanks and congratulations to Guy.

  86. Bagpuss

    Further to my question at 84 above, given that FT jumbo crosswords have for some time now been published on the Saturdays of bank holiday weekends (in England & Wales), why is it that there are not standing arrangements in place for them to be blogged on this site? The next two occurrences will be on 2nd May and 23rd May.

  87. jeff@usa

    Bagpuss and Javi, wondering the same thing. I asked the question under “general discussion.” The solution has been published.

  88. Admin

    Re: FT Jumbo.

    I’m afraid that it’s just fallen through the cracks. The bloggers and I have been discussing the jumbos and we’re close to putting a plan in place.

    Bear in mind though that we don’t receive any advance notification and that the individual publications could change their policy and/or schedule at any time.

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